tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post2688524514950361329..comments2024-03-29T02:18:35.303-07:00Comments on TAG Blog: Cal Arts Presents!Steve Huletthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-2243919894265135732011-05-18T11:28:36.546-07:002011-05-18T11:28:36.546-07:00"But as far as the quality of animation never...<i>"But as far as the quality of animation never really getting past a certain level being due to a recent graduate not knowing art history? I'd say it has more to do with the studio status-quo, and the executives and production supes not wanting to slip from their high perches by exploring any risky originality"</i><br /><br />No. Come on, you should have a solid foundation in art history if you go to an art school. Thats just the axiom of a good education. The only way a Cal Arts grad will know about a fine artist is if there was a famous Disney artist who mentions them. A good education in art cannot be attained when its only through the prism of the history of Disney.<br /><br />If you graduate an art school you should have studied the Jansen and Arnason texts. Period. There are thousands of years of inspiring work and ideas and philosophies that Cal Arts grads do not study and if they did, then they would be released into our industry with much more fertile minds. The work we see in the industry would be more inspired. How can you graduate from an art school without survey classes? Without knowing Laocoön? Or Brancusi? Are German expressionism?<br />Without learning art history, its just a trade school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-23903115659339346552011-05-17T20:40:36.589-07:002011-05-17T20:40:36.589-07:00CalArts is tops for the west coast and Ringling is...CalArts is tops for the west coast and Ringling is tops for the East coast. If you didn't get past the CalArts portfolio review you can always resubmit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-44765727390635943262011-05-17T07:58:35.504-07:002011-05-17T07:58:35.504-07:00"CalArts grads have an abysmal grasp of art h..."CalArts grads have an abysmal grasp of art history. "So what, they don't need art history" you say. "They go right into making cartoons at a studio"<br /><br />And we wonder why the product never really gets past a certain level in quality..."<br /><br /><br /><br />I'm a CalArts grad, and I'm somewhat in agreement with this, at least as it pertains to Animation.<br /><br />The Art School students have a terrific sense of art history, but that points out the dichotomous nature of the school: an all encompassing arts education, but also very walled-off at times between each discipline.<br /><br />But as far as the quality of animation never really getting past a certain level being due to a recent graduate not knowing art history? I'd say it has more to do with the studio status-quo, and the executives and production supes not wanting to slip from their high perches by exploring any risky originality.<br /><br />The executives would rather advertise a known name like a new Flintstones (however different in sensibility the new "take" on the franchise will be),<br />than take a fantastically original CalArts thesis short film and let it blossom into greatness. And they could blossom nicely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-63938802699468403732011-05-16T20:26:25.432-07:002011-05-16T20:26:25.432-07:00Im not sure who "Anonymous Monday, May 16, 20...Im not sure who "Anonymous Monday, May 16, 2011 3:53:00 PM" is, but they clearly dont work in the industry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-69283702051206590462011-05-16T19:52:22.606-07:002011-05-16T19:52:22.606-07:00" I am shocked at how little foundation cours..." I am shocked at how little foundation courses the artists that graduate CalArts leave with"<br /><br />I couldn't agree more. They do have a difficult time keeping good (much less GREAT) teachers. The school accepts far too many students, and the facilities are very out of date. The students are great, and about the same percentage find success after leaving the school as they always have.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-79985512937741324702011-05-16T16:17:38.159-07:002011-05-16T16:17:38.159-07:00CalArts is an above average college that brings in...CalArts is an above average college that brings in industry talent at best, and nothing more than a trade school at worst.<br /><br />Time and again I am shocked at how little foundation courses the artists that graduate CalArts leave with. By contrast all SCAD students graduate with a minor in art history because of the rigorous curriculum.<br /><br />CalArts grads have an abysmal grasp of art history. "So what, they don't need art history" you say. "They go right into making cartoons at a studio"<br /><br />And we wonder why the product never really gets past a certain level in quality...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-70242496082100032442011-05-16T15:53:49.655-07:002011-05-16T15:53:49.655-07:00Not sure who the hater is, but CalArts is still th...Not sure who the hater is, but CalArts is still the animation school for learning animation from the pros. If you want to learn how to use a computer or do it in less than 12 months in order to get a rotoscoping job, then CalArts may not be for you, there are plenty of other schools for that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-22201530555080815622011-05-16T14:24:49.163-07:002011-05-16T14:24:49.163-07:00Cal Arts CG department is crap. No one goes to ma...Cal Arts CG department is crap. No one goes to major studios from Cal Arts anymore unless it's visual development/concept/story.<br /><br />Animation wise, Animation Mentor and the other major schools (SCAD, Ringling) are eating their lunch. (but they arent all that great either)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-61577556878953472012011-05-16T12:32:56.960-07:002011-05-16T12:32:56.960-07:00"You want money? You should be grateful to wo..."You want money? You should be grateful to work here. We give you free nachos!"<br /><br />I'm afraid it's a buyer's market.Floyd Normanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08635960964922892254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-65222926523854463702011-05-16T11:37:47.445-07:002011-05-16T11:37:47.445-07:00The nice thing about these young talents is that t...The nice thing about these young talents is that they'll work for peanuts, giving studios added incentive to ease the older and more costly artists out the door.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-75698747785768456112011-05-15T23:09:42.460-07:002011-05-15T23:09:42.460-07:00Id love to know, since I dream of going to that ve...Id love to know, since I dream of going to that very school for that very study, for that very hope of being employed by a great studio.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com