tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post3261165292626935127..comments2024-03-26T22:42:06.412-07:00Comments on TAG Blog: Glen Keane's DepartureSteve Huletthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-9663423362026159762012-08-10T07:10:53.018-07:002012-08-10T07:10:53.018-07:00Im happy he left! Hopefully he can be a driving fo...Im happy he left! Hopefully he can be a driving force to make the marked understand that 3D should relax!!! I really hope he will be one that can somehow turn around the trend again in favor for 2D!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-16577645183574217392012-07-12T00:01:55.508-07:002012-07-12T00:01:55.508-07:00I worked on Tarzan. I met Glen during my stint wi...I worked on Tarzan. I met Glen during my stint with Disney. <br />He is hands down the most inspiring person in the business.<br /> I was just a kid then. The baby-du-jour. And then I was gone. Projects wrapped, visa expired, picked up by another studio back home. <br /><br />I was really lucky to have had the opportunity to learn from him. I know what it feels like to leave the very place that was your ideal dream job location. Sure there are other studios, but to say you worked at Disney for any length of time is a badge of honor.<br /><br /> Wherever you end up Mr. Keane, continue to inspire. And if you ever need help finishing a film... call on me any time - love to repay that debt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-9510839985998789542012-05-10T04:41:52.505-07:002012-05-10T04:41:52.505-07:00I don't think anyone wants to force Glen Keane...I don't think anyone wants to force Glen Keane to stay at Disney. Animators move from studio to studio, that's a fact. However, the impact they have on a studio can range from minimal to defining. It's a bittersweet feeling, and it's symbolic of how things at Disney have changed. <br />So let these people mourn how things change, because you know what, that's how people deal with things as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-60449041406436561662012-03-30T09:10:38.163-07:002012-03-30T09:10:38.163-07:00One of my old Animation Magazines that cannot get ...One of my old Animation Magazines that cannot get rid of features Glen Keane working on Oliver and Company. For me his departure seems to be the bookmark for a era. I can't say that Glen Keane's huge income didn't make people pause but it always seemed worth it to hold on to someone who was the bridge from the Disney of old. Glen had a passion and unique drawing style that set him miles apart from the rest. Even if he was working on the Chipmunk Adventure there was something magical about his moving drawings. His artistry with a pencil is something special and will be missed on the Disney global entertainment platform. <br /><br />I suggest the time of the star animator is perceived to be over. Once an animator floats above the rest with his or her acting ability they begin to itch for more. No longer content to be like the 9 old men they follow some kind of siren song to be a director. Of course it can be a mistake as not every animator has great story ideas. It is clear in Disney's Robin Hood that when the animators were given free range to come up with ideas that those ideas were strung together thoughts that added up to nothing. It is not clear why Glen was replaced on Tangled but his heart attack speaks to his unhappiness. <br /><br />So I am sad about Glen leaving as I want animators to have the same name recognition as they did during the 9 old men era. Our animation directors are the current stars even if they do a half good job directing. It is time for the animators to sit up and take notice of the outpouring from the animation community for a wonderful ANIMATOR.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-37206334767490994162012-03-27T10:07:57.971-07:002012-03-27T10:07:57.971-07:00About 6 of them. But he was (and still is) worth e...<b>About 6 of them. But he was (and still is) worth every penny.</b><br /><br />More like 20, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-22519997117815135572012-03-27T10:07:37.916-07:002012-03-27T10:07:37.916-07:00No crocodile tears here,but Glen was the reason I ...No crocodile tears here,but Glen was the reason I chose animation as a viable profession,many years ago. He raised the bar of this art form.<br /><br />d.diablonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-24299684659530834922012-03-27T09:56:54.701-07:002012-03-27T09:56:54.701-07:00If posting anonymously is such a problem as it see...<b>If posting anonymously is such a problem as it seems to be with some of the TAG employees. Maybe you shouldn't allow anonymous posting. Just an idea.</b><br /><br />The TAG executive board has no issues with anonymous posting.<br /><br />If people are really bothered by it, I suggest you come to tonight's General Membership meeting and voice your discontent.<br /><br />Otherwise, anonymous posters complaining about other anonymou posters is a "meh" so far as I'm concerned.Steve Huletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-71990803319033659712012-03-27T09:29:00.725-07:002012-03-27T09:29:00.725-07:00I dunno. As an employee, you probably shouldn'...I dunno. As an employee, you probably shouldn't be belittling anyone. This is the problem that I think some have with the Guild. We all don't fit your standards. Members or not.<br /><br />If posting anonymously is such a problem as it seems to be with some of the TAG employees. Maybe you shouldn't allow anonymous posting. Just an idea.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-31489963531456665392012-03-27T06:52:44.313-07:002012-03-27T06:52:44.313-07:00For the folks drinking the "cartoon brew"...For the folks drinking the "cartoon brew", Disney was great and will always be great, even when the last artist who made it great has left the building. There's no way those talented artists could possibly do great work elsewhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-36902214664394979572012-03-26T23:17:03.788-07:002012-03-26T23:17:03.788-07:00"Is Keane's ex-job up for grabs, then?&qu..."Is Keane's ex-job up for grabs, then?"<br /><br />About 6 of them. But he was (and still is) worth every penny.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-42463704294509276592012-03-26T13:11:13.876-07:002012-03-26T13:11:13.876-07:00It always is, even when he was there. Are your fe...It always is, even when he was there. Are your feet big enough?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-19621637322089035612012-03-26T12:16:29.106-07:002012-03-26T12:16:29.106-07:00Is Keane's ex-job up for grabs, then?Is Keane's ex-job up for grabs, then?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-35081052160120012022012-03-26T06:27:12.433-07:002012-03-26T06:27:12.433-07:00Nope, I'm an employee. I'm belittling som...Nope, I'm an employee. I'm belittling someone anonymously taking swipes at Hulett who I feel has nothing more to do with TAG then a healthy-sized shoulder chip. <br /><br />Am I wrong? Prove it by using your name.Steven Kaplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13630148057269319887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-82161251802415502952012-03-25T16:47:11.817-07:002012-03-25T16:47:11.817-07:00"Not hard to do, I've never worked in a u..."Not hard to do, I've never worked in a union shop. I bet you're not an active member now and are scarred to post your name out of fear."<br /><br />So your not a member? Hmm and you are calling out someone for not being one either? Or belittling them that they are on inactive status because they can't find union work<br /><br />Classy man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-11648685917380043332012-03-25T15:49:43.090-07:002012-03-25T15:49:43.090-07:00It isn't a bad thing to take note and care tha...<b>It isn't a bad thing to take note and care that an important animator has left an important company [...] Not surprisingly - neither of you guys get it.</b><br />Wrong. We get it, and have both commented on what it could mean for Disney and Glen. I just don't get the tears and wailing. Disney wasn't just Glen. Yes, lets all realize Glen has left. But to take it to the extreme is just silly.<br /><br /><b>I know I've worked more union shops than you.</b><br />Not hard to do, I've never worked in a union shop. I bet you're not an active member now and are scarred to post your name out of fear.<br /><br /><b>And in the spirit of this board you, me and everybody just fuck off!</b><br />Love it!Steven Kaplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13630148057269319887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-50500266948775223342012-03-25T14:23:32.114-07:002012-03-25T14:23:32.114-07:00Speaking as an observer to this fray. Maybe Steve ...Speaking as an observer to this fray. Maybe Steve took to seriously the quotes about crying etc.<br /><br />I think the sentiments are that they are sad to see their hero love a place they like. "Their didn't seem to be any WTF was Glen thinking?" More like "Wow an era has ended". Which to me is a compliment to a great guy and great animator.<br /><br />Myabe since you are telling people to get over it Steve. I'll tell you to just say "Hey guys, it's sad to see a fixture leave but take it from me, he's doing what's best for him which I'm sure you all agree is the right thing to do."<br /><br />But if the attitude is that there are more important things in the world to take a moment to tweet about, then maybe follow your on advice and resign and rep a charity or political group instead.<br /><br />So to sum up:<br />People who are really crying about Glen leaving - grow up!<br /><br />Union reps - try using some tact when dealing with those you represent.<br /><br />And in the spirit of this board you, me and everybody just fuck off!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-52866014885346829742012-03-25T11:52:06.234-07:002012-03-25T11:52:06.234-07:00The Disney haters need to stop already! Everyone...The Disney haters need to stop already! Everyone at Disney is really happy to be working there right now. There is a great energy, tons of great talent, and exciting projects in the pipe! Yes, its sad that Glen is moving on to explore some personal projects that he wants to work on, but I cant wait to see them!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-6931685222300461062012-03-25T11:00:02.733-07:002012-03-25T11:00:02.733-07:00But when creatives want to take the time to expres...<b>But when creatives want to take the time to express their feelings about something that has meaning for them and you just shrug it off and tell them to get on with it? Well it puts you into the same category as those same execs you are suppposed to be keeping in check.</b><br /><br />"Creatives?" We know this how?<br /><br />See, I've actually talked to Keane about his leaving. And he thought it was a natural thing to do. Was looking forward to it.<br /><br /> So. When anonymous commenters weep and wail about Glen VOLUNTARILY exiting the Mouse House, I think it's over the top, you know?<br /><br /> And frankly, I've no idea if anonymous persons here claiming to be "industry veterans" who've talked to me actually are. So I am just the teensiest bit skeptical that I know any of them.<br /><br /> I wouldn't presume to get into anyone's head regarding their "passion" for the industry. I have plenty of passion from my end. Sorry if my thoughts about Keane choosing to go elsewhere offend you.<br />With time, your hurt will diminish.Steve Huletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-19241323426907609422012-03-25T10:46:53.163-07:002012-03-25T10:46:53.163-07:00"Gee .. its really amazing when the membershi..."Gee .. its really amazing when the membership, or maybe NOT a member, takes a bruise to the ego when Steve puts up an opinion."<br /><br />I know I've worked more union shops than you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-51346212388980532652012-03-25T10:46:41.765-07:002012-03-25T10:46:41.765-07:00Actually, you don't get it.
Glen is a hell of ...Actually, you don't get it.<br />Glen is a hell of a good animator. He has not been really animating since Treasure Planet. He's finally left a place that would not give him a chance to animate any longer.<br />It's an end of an era, but for Glen that era ended years ago. He's been spinning his wheels for years trying to remake himself and fit in and he; most likely has come to the conclusion that he no longer fit at Disney for whatever reason. maybe he no longer wants to animate and they don't want him to direct (that seems obvious) or maybe if they do have a 2D film in the pipeline he can't see himself working on it for whatever reason.<br />The point is for most of us professionals it is indeed a shrug of the shoulders and time to get back to working.<br />Glen's leaving doesn't really effect anyone but Glen.<br />If you, as a fanboy, want to masturbate to some of Glen's animation you still have plenty of ability to do that whether he's at Disney not animating or at some other studio or at home.<br />At least if he's left Disney you might get some new spank material from him in the future...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-22914823070914021682012-03-25T10:45:42.649-07:002012-03-25T10:45:42.649-07:00What drives me nuts is that everyone is wildly bla...What drives me nuts is that everyone is wildly blaming Disney for this. Glen wants to do his own thing for his own reasons. Stop with the Disney hate already.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-23629318973145259652012-03-25T10:23:27.045-07:002012-03-25T10:23:27.045-07:00Sorry that I dob't subscribe to your beliefs. ...Sorry that I dob't subscribe to your beliefs. It isn't a bad thing to take note and care that an important animator has left an important company. Or what that means for the direction that company is taking and what that means for us working there.<br /><br />Not surprisingly - neither of you guys get it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-86495607542791869202012-03-25T10:11:25.489-07:002012-03-25T10:11:25.489-07:00Wow! It sucks to have a business rep who fails to ...<i>Wow! It sucks to have a business rep who fails to understand that some of us still have passion for this biz and give a damn when someone who has inspired us has left a studio that "created" American animated features.</i><br /><br />Gee .. its really amazing when the membership, or maybe <b>NOT</b> a member, takes a bruise to the ego when Steve puts up an opinion.<br /><br />Glen Keane isn't dead. Glen Keane will most likely continue to be a great artist for quite a few years. Glean Keane, for whatever reason, left Disney. Disney, because Glen Keane is so talented, is lesser for it.<br /><br />The world still spins, Animation continues, and so do we. Disney will continue and I, personally, look forward to see what Glen is going to do next. It seems to me, he can pretty much write his own ticket.<br /><br />One of Hulett's regular mantras holds true here: <br /><br />"Everything is arbitrary and everything is temporary"<br /><br />Throw some grey matter at that as opposed to bravely tilting at windmills here.Steven Kaplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13630148057269319887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-3969193459565153072012-03-25T09:43:57.640-07:002012-03-25T09:43:57.640-07:00Just Please......for the love of God.... Tell me G...Just Please......for the love of God.... Tell me Glen is not going to work for Dreamworks...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-12207062431233308942012-03-25T08:28:00.066-07:002012-03-25T08:28:00.066-07:00Wow! It sucks to have a business rep who fails to ...Wow! It sucks to have a business rep who fails to understand that some of us still have passion for this biz and give a damn when someone who has inspired us has left a studio that "created" American animated features.<br /><br />AFter talking with you several times during your walkabouts at some of the places I worked, I surmised that you didn't have a fondness for this business, mainly due to the execs. <br /><br />But when creatives want to take the time to express their feelings about something that has meaning for them and you just shrug it off and tell them to get on with it? Well it puts you into the same category as those same execs you are suppposed to be keeping in check.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com