tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post5634418028228302559..comments2024-03-26T22:42:06.412-07:00Comments on TAG Blog: The MegaCollector's Flip the FrogSteve Huletthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-52031081357712536792012-01-26T10:49:25.446-08:002012-01-26T10:49:25.446-08:00Absolutely love it! Flip the Frog was fantastic an...Absolutely love it! Flip the Frog was fantastic and the creator was brilliant.Togotoonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16531821776682850136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-8126311388365577292009-07-14T12:22:36.719-07:002009-07-14T12:22:36.719-07:00You are pretty thin skinned. Nobody is "bashi...You are pretty thin skinned. Nobody is "bashing" modern animation. Where did you get that? No matter how Sporn meant his comment, I'm sure it was meant to be more of an acknowledgment of Iwerks than a knock of more recent work. <br /><br />Current films are kind of all over the place, both style-wise and quality-wise. It would be impossible to lump it all together in one box. One thing is for sure: Whatever current animators achieve, artistically or technologically, it's on the shoulders of the artists who proceeded us.<br /><br />It is totally unfair to judge the work of the pioneers of the art form outside of the context of their times. Take another look. Mixed in with the simple stuff there is some astonishingly creative work, all of which was completely unprecedented.<br /><br />My personal favorite is the early Fleischer work with it's trippy surreal playfulness. There is no contemporary American equivalent.<br />Miyazaki oftern comes close, but it's mostly a creative vein that has not been mined.formerly Shockednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-10352958607409761482009-07-13T23:05:07.102-07:002009-07-13T23:05:07.102-07:00How can you be so judgmental as to think that I, a...How can you be so judgmental as to think that I, and all my friends, believe the world and animation began 10 years ago? That's a pretty mean-spirited accusation.<br /><br />I will belatedly give Mr. Sporn the benefit of the doubt that he was being humorous. I'm just tired of the constant bashing of recent animation (much of which is some of the most sophisticated ever created), while elevating even the silliest pablum from the 30's to virtually mythic status.<br /><br />The truth is that, interspersed amongst some absolutely brilliant work, much of the original "Golden Age" animation was pretty crappy stuff. And there is much being produced today that trounces it on every level. Let's start calling a spade a spade.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-32976240435002260162009-07-13T11:29:45.259-07:002009-07-13T11:29:45.259-07:00"Nope. Just capable of keeping things in a ce..."Nope. Just capable of keeping things in a certain level of perspective, unlike you."<br /><br />What??? Exactly how does criticizing someone for attacking Mike Sporn for complimenting Ub Iwerks, (which he might of meant ironically or facetiously), failing to keep things "in perspective?" What does that even mean? And what do you know about what I am or am not "capable" of?<br /><br />I don't know you, but it's obvious that you are very quick to be judgemental.Was Shocked, Now Confusednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-8788531421567402332009-07-13T07:06:43.729-07:002009-07-13T07:06:43.729-07:00Welcome to the animation business.Welcome to the animation business.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-47462472897187796532009-07-12T22:46:09.292-07:002009-07-12T22:46:09.292-07:00Oh, this here union blog is SUCH a happy place! A...Oh, this here union blog is SUCH a happy place! Aren't animation artists and fans wonderful folks? I love this business!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-36097526190006265032009-07-12T09:06:14.792-07:002009-07-12T09:06:14.792-07:00You and all of your friends who think the world an...<i>You and all of your friends who think the world and animation began ten years ago.</i><br /><br />Nope. Just capable of keeping things in a certain level of perspective, unlike you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-80282215285806787512009-07-12T00:34:46.042-07:002009-07-12T00:34:46.042-07:00You're the one with your "dainty panties ...You're the one with your "dainty panties in a wad." You and all of your friends who think the world and animation began ten years ago.<br /><br />Steve didn't post the model sheet so all of you too-cool-for-school smart-asses could vote on Iwerks' artistic merit or design chops. It's an historic document. He was one of the founders of our industry. He doesn't need your approval or admiration. It would be like criticizing George Washington's presidency. Honestly, get over yourself.<br /><br />By the way, you might actually want to check out those Flip shorts. They were excellent work, especially for their time. You can't really blame Iwerks for failing to knock a cultural icon like Mickey Mouse off his pedestal.<br />He was neither the first nor the last to do that.still shockednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-28102996307290565592009-07-11T14:07:23.030-07:002009-07-11T14:07:23.030-07:00"Shocked" sounds like he needs to unwad ..."Shocked" sounds like he needs to unwad his dainty panties.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-24505579565995404632009-07-11T12:58:14.105-07:002009-07-11T12:58:14.105-07:00Well, Shocked, I'm not discussing Mr. Sporn...Well, Shocked, I'm not discussing Mr. Sporn's professional resume. I am, however, discussing the absurd notion that Flip the Frog, whose banal design is correctly appreciated only as a historical footnote, is "better than anything in the last 10 years."<br /><br />There is no aesthetic justification for such a grand pronouncement, as anyone with a modicum of awareness of some of the wonderful work that has been made in animation in the last 10 years can attest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-71679744666036184652009-07-11T08:06:39.876-07:002009-07-11T08:06:39.876-07:00It's better than anything done in the last ten...<i>It's better than anything done in the last ten years.</i>..<br /><br />Thank you for the laugh. But credibility is a terrible thing to waste. And now I know I can safely disregard you in the future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-51619274828967431202009-07-11T05:58:04.062-07:002009-07-11T05:58:04.062-07:00It's better than anything done in the last ten...It's better than anything done in the last ten years. I love it.Michael Spornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02018522723674960270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-22100940333359240462009-07-10T15:40:18.795-07:002009-07-10T15:40:18.795-07:00It's not as unappealing as it is nondescript. ...It's not as unappealing as it is nondescript. Easy to see why Iwerks failed with this...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-81897385814815302682009-07-10T14:28:52.151-07:002009-07-10T14:28:52.151-07:00Wow! Two disses with one blow! Shut up and go chan...Wow! Two disses with one blow! Shut up and go change your diapers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-26629125968525614062009-07-09T21:55:57.368-07:002009-07-09T21:55:57.368-07:00That is such an unappealing character it's alm...That is such an unappealing character it's almost like something Robert Crumb would do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com