tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post114654696355410809..comments2024-03-26T22:42:06.412-07:00Comments on TAG Blog: Sexual Harrassment in 'ToonlandSteve Huletthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1147527353394847652006-05-13T06:35:00.000-07:002006-05-13T06:35:00.000-07:00I have found there to be a lot of sexism in this f...I have found there to be a lot of sexism in this field directed at good looking women. Why, your own Tom Sito told me himself that in his opinion, attractive women are not nice people. <BR/><BR/>It's easy to label us all intollerant, pin-up hating extremists, but there is a difference between the appreciation of the female form, and the mistreatment of female co-workers. So long as attitudes remain apologetic for the bad types of behavior, you'll find women are less tollerant of the innocent stuff. It's only common senseā¦Chrlanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17658592845808601075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1146672818449439682006-05-03T09:13:00.000-07:002006-05-03T09:13:00.000-07:00We filed a grievance over dismissal because 1) the...We filed a grievance over dismissal because 1) the artist claimed to be innocent and never wavered from that position, 2) much of the evidence was weak and/or ambiguous, (for instance, there was a sexy sign in a layout that was put forward as evidence; but the same sexy sign was in an approved storyboard the artist was using for the layout, and 3) the job of the guild is to defend members when they say the charges are false, not to prejudge the issues.<BR/><BR/>If the artist had admitted to us (the lawyer and I), that yeah, well, the company's charges were correct, we would have dropped the grievance.<BR/><BR/>As it was, the grievance came close to settling but didn't. (We couldn't come to agreement on a dollar figure.) I had a number of Disney artists come up to me during and after the grievance and ask the same questions that you've raised. I gave the same answers I'm posting here.<BR/><BR/>The Guild's job, at the end of the day, is to be an advocate for a member who representes that she or he has been wronged.Steve Huletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1146617354583386462006-05-02T17:49:00.000-07:002006-05-02T17:49:00.000-07:00Yes, I too am puzzled why you fought this artist's...Yes, I too am puzzled why you fought this artist's dismissal. Putting some gag drawings up around the office is one thing. Putting them in a publicly broadcast children's show is another. Seems to me there are more worthy people and situations to fight for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1146597668978409592006-05-02T12:21:00.000-07:002006-05-02T12:21:00.000-07:00I remember the case of the artist who "slipped in"...I remember the case of the artist who "slipped in" genitalia into <I>children's cartoons</I>, and to tell the truth, I'm a bit puzzled as to why you'd fight his dismissal "every step of the way". What he did was INSTANT grounds for firing, imho. Not just stupid and foolish, but also a hugely expensive "prank" for that show(not to mention--and I'm an avid Stern listener--plain offensive), requiring retakes and re-animation from overseas...but I am sure you remember all that. I think in the case of that person, he had some clearly serious problems. These weren't <I>private</I> gags for friends, this was putting things into backgrounds of kids' fare that had NO business being there. He'd done it compulsively and repeatedly. Why should that company have taken the huge fall they surely would have because of his behaviour? I don't think that was a great battle for the union to pick. Just my opinion. <BR/><BR/>As for the supposed continuing overzealousness of producers/employers/studios, I haven't seen it at all. I have nudes up around my office--nudes by the old masters(including the ones from the 30s and 40s, lol), but they're <I>not</I> crude and potentially offensive sexual gags. Women and men (especuially artists) both know the difference. And btw, there are just as many guys as gals who are actually made pretty uncomfortable by certain sex "gags" and such...the good old days of open snraking sexually are gone, and it's not necessarily a bad thing. I'm glad the women aren't made to sit in another building, either. ; )<BR/>All in all, this is a hell of a better, healthier and freer working world than the old days were.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com