tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post116225603184752228..comments2024-03-29T02:18:35.303-07:00Comments on TAG Blog: The Disney Monday Roll AroundSteve Huletthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comBlogger70125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162888045213553742006-11-07T00:27:00.000-08:002006-11-07T00:27:00.000-08:00Steve talks with more retired animation pros than ...Steve talks with more retired animation pros than I do, and from my recollection he's referred to some of their stories on this blog and in the Peg Board on several occasions. But it's a good request, and I'm sure he can do a future posting on some real life retiree stories (by the way, what are the two sides you're weighing -- pro-pension benefits, and anti-pension benefits?).Kevin Kochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14678528568112279975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162883892802025192006-11-06T23:18:00.000-08:002006-11-06T23:18:00.000-08:00Speaking of the Union pension.... Is there anyone ...Speaking of the Union pension.... Is there anyone following this thread that is currently collecting from the pension plan? I'd love to see a story here on several folks who are actually retired and enjoying the fruits of their labor. Is there anyone out there? What do they think of the plan now that they are using it as a supplemental income. Maybe I've been in the dark, but I have never read a story in regards to retired animators and their happiness or disregard for the union's contributions to their retirement.<BR/>- Anonymous animator weighing both sides.<BR/>Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162883490815673032006-11-06T23:11:00.000-08:002006-11-06T23:11:00.000-08:00> drinking the studio "Kool-aid" is reserved for H...> drinking the studio "Kool-aid" is reserved for HR and execs.<BR/>> Not much of a reason for an artist to do it...<BR/><BR/>Unless they're naive... or trying to toady up. :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162834395025460772006-11-06T09:33:00.000-08:002006-11-06T09:33:00.000-08:00"Don't mistake artists that arent drinking the uni..."Don't mistake artists that arent drinking the union kool-aide to be HR and execs."<BR/><BR/>Not the point. However you feel about the union, drinking the studio "Kool-aid" is reserved for HR and execs. Not much of a reason for an artist to do it...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162672885977891342006-11-04T12:41:00.000-08:002006-11-04T12:41:00.000-08:00"Don't mistake artists that arent drinking the uni..."Don't mistake artists that arent drinking the union kool-aide to be HR and execs."<BR/><BR/>Ah, another fierce individualist (or rather, another corporate toady). I assume at the same time you're rejecting that union kool-aide you'll also be rejecting the union pension and health benefits?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162671776386056462006-11-04T12:22:00.000-08:002006-11-04T12:22:00.000-08:00Darin:Two points: 1) We've conversed (briefly) sin...Darin:<BR/><BR/>Two points: 1) We've conversed (briefly) since TSL; 2) Rule of thumb re quoting somebody in print? If you don't identify the speaker (and I didn't), then no trust has been betrayed because <I>nobody knows who's talking.</I>Steve Huletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162612894804985932006-11-03T20:01:00.000-08:002006-11-03T20:01:00.000-08:00^Thanks for the lesson Floyd! I like that one.=)Yo...^Thanks for the lesson Floyd! I like that one.=)<BR/><BR/><BR/>You know, people here keep bringing up how this is somehow a return to the dark ages, and that everything from here on out is doom and gloom (well, at least till the end of the year). And again, it is never good news to hear that people will lose their jobs (though you folks here tell me that it is kind of just the way the industry goes these days). <BR/><BR/>The thing that gets me is that WDFA is being run now by someone who obviously knew how to make things work at Pixar. And from what Steve has been posting here, it seems Ed (and I am sure he has support from others, especially fellow Pixarians) is trying to fix A LOT of problems that have been going on for YEARS!!!- and in several different areas of the FA studio. But I would think that he is trying to take into account the LONG-term health of the studio. I agree that getting out the un-necessary execs and business folks that only contribute to a bad environment is a big key, but there is obviously much more to it than that. <BR/><BR/>Overall, I would think (as an outsider) that Ed and John are trying to really take into account the Long-term health of the studio, and then how films are distributed and when. It seems to be that some major sacrifices are just going to have to be made, and unfortunately in the artist area too.<BR/>I believe Steve said that Ed is trying to get WDFA on a more long-term stable path for the future. <BR/>I would think, in the end, it would be a good thing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162609880369764912006-11-03T19:11:00.000-08:002006-11-03T19:11:00.000-08:00"Yeah, you are right. The artists that are laid of..."Yeah, you are right. The artists that are laid off whenever it suits Disney and treated as chess pieces are vehemently defending the studio. Of course."<BR/><BR/>Don't mistake artists that arent drinking the union kool-aide to be HR and execs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162582549144529742006-11-03T11:35:00.000-08:002006-11-03T11:35:00.000-08:00A history lesson from one who worked with the "old...A history lesson from one who worked with the "old man."<BR/><BR/>Walt Disney had contempt for butt-kissers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162572141743102212006-11-03T08:42:00.000-08:002006-11-03T08:42:00.000-08:00"^ ^ ^ ^ P.A.R.A.N.O.I.A. Do you really think HR..."^ ^ ^ ^ P.A.R.A.N.O.I.A. Do you really think HR people and execs are sitting here reading this website? Get real, they could care less."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Yeah, you are right. The artists that are laid off whenever it suits Disney and treated as chess pieces are vehemently defending the studio. Of course.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162535008728636062006-11-02T22:23:00.000-08:002006-11-02T22:23:00.000-08:00Steve, you are wasting too much of your time expla...<I>Steve, you are wasting too much of your time explaining yourself. :-)</I><BR/><BR/>Too true. But wasting time is one of my many specialties.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162534847175789542006-11-02T22:20:00.000-08:002006-11-02T22:20:00.000-08:00Hello:I'm number 62.Hello:<BR/>I'm number 62.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162529993536513332006-11-02T20:59:00.000-08:002006-11-02T20:59:00.000-08:00Steve, you are wasting too much of your time expla...Steve, you are wasting too much of your time explaining yourself. :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162512992760000212006-11-02T16:16:00.000-08:002006-11-02T16:16:00.000-08:00i didnt read the top disclaimer. I only followed ...i didnt read the top disclaimer. I only followed a link from the official guild website, or maybe it was one of the links from other websites pointing to the guild website. my bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162511093485904232006-11-02T15:44:00.000-08:002006-11-02T15:44:00.000-08:00You are able to enter Disney because of your posit...<I>You are able to enter Disney because of your position in the Animation Guild but you post your personal opinions here- hmmm- if you worked for the government would that logic hold up in a blog like this?</I><BR/><BR/>Maybe, maybe not. I'm not a lawyer. But it's one of the reasons why, each and every day, I give thanks I am not working for the government. Especially the current government.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162510818411780672006-11-02T15:40:00.000-08:002006-11-02T15:40:00.000-08:00BTW, this is not an artists website. It is the gui...<I>BTW, this is not an artists website. It is the guild's website. Slight but important difference.</I><BR/><BR/>Again, to clarify, this isn't, strictly speaking TAG's weblog. TAG doesn't pay for it.<BR/><BR/>If you read the top disclaimer, you'll see it's Kevin K.'s log...and mine, reflecting our views, both as TAG officers, and as individuals. Kevin is also a working animator with a long track record. I'm a former Disney, Filmation and Disney TVA animation writer.<BR/><BR/>Hope this helps to clarify.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162510360674293332006-11-02T15:32:00.000-08:002006-11-02T15:32:00.000-08:00Wouldn't surprise me. What else do they have to do...Wouldn't surprise me. What else do they have to do?<BR/><BR/>Okay guys, just kidding.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162509310999188672006-11-02T15:15:00.000-08:002006-11-02T15:15:00.000-08:00Disney's HR folks and execs DO follow this website...Disney's HR folks and execs DO follow this website.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162505917943637852006-11-02T14:18:00.000-08:002006-11-02T14:18:00.000-08:00BTW, this is not an artists website. It is the gu...BTW, this is not an artists website. It is the guild's website. Slight but important difference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162505869342916412006-11-02T14:17:00.000-08:002006-11-02T14:17:00.000-08:00^ ^ ^ ^ P.A.R.A.N.O.I.A.Do you really think HR peo...^ ^ ^ ^ P.A.R.A.N.O.I.A.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Do you really think HR people and execs are sitting here reading this website? Get real, they could care less.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162505307709517192006-11-02T14:08:00.000-08:002006-11-02T14:08:00.000-08:00You have not crossed the line, Steve. The informat...You have not crossed the line, Steve. The information you dispense regularly is invaluable. The Disney HR folks posting comments here should just find another website to read. Leave the artists' website to the artists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162494856329100512006-11-02T11:14:00.000-08:002006-11-02T11:14:00.000-08:00i hope Disney will return to producing great films...i hope Disney will return to producing great films again. there have been so many people that had to go through the recent closures over the years, it would be nice to see the studio stabilize sooner than later.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162492056650690602006-11-02T10:27:00.000-08:002006-11-02T10:27:00.000-08:00Dear Darin: A visit to your therapist would do you...Dear Darin:<BR/><BR/> A visit to your therapist would do you lots of good! Tell him/her about your frustration with your inability to control what info is out there on this thing called 'internet'. Tell him/her about your control issues as well.<BR/><BR/><BR/>(Are you related to Stalin by any chance?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162489004061914302006-11-02T09:36:00.000-08:002006-11-02T09:36:00.000-08:00There's an emotional connection to Disney. Studios...There's an emotional connection to Disney. Studios come and go, but Disney was there at the beginning. In many ways it set the standard.<BR/><BR/>When things go wrong -- and sometimes they do. We care, and we care deeply.<BR/><BR/>It's understandable. It's Disney.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1162480291291943832006-11-02T07:11:00.000-08:002006-11-02T07:11:00.000-08:00I noticed it only gets heated when we talk about a...I noticed it only gets heated when we talk about a particular studio. Why is that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com