tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post1571254192624996539..comments2024-03-26T22:42:06.412-07:00Comments on TAG Blog: The Wise Old Studio ExecSteve Huletthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-58757643249364515942008-07-06T11:57:00.000-07:002008-07-06T11:57:00.000-07:00Geez. There's a lot of vitriol directed at one nin...Geez. There's a lot of vitriol directed at one nine word sentence that if it had a winking emoticon at the tail of it would've (I hope) been ignored. <BR/>Even assuming it was intended as snark (more likely sarcasm) does it deserve all of this over-reaction?<BR/>It also seems that many are assuming that all the "anonymous" posters are the same one that said the "oh, so offensive" posting. It doesn't read that way to me, but those that are unnecessarily protecting Mr. Norman seem to see it that way.<BR/>Just as that poster (who seemd to actually be responding to the silly post above it) should've taken a moment to think about what he/she said so should some of Mr. Norman's defenders. Mr. Norman sure seemed to have taken a measured response to it.<BR/><BR/>animator boy (not tto be confused with animator girl)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-63992059301733880022008-07-06T11:26:00.000-07:002008-07-06T11:26:00.000-07:00I'll add that if the comments weren't snark, what ...I'll add that if the comments <I>weren't</I> snark, what was your actual point?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-74606248321145303112008-07-06T11:24:00.000-07:002008-07-06T11:24:00.000-07:00Obviously, this "anonymous" probably doesn't have ...Obviously, this "anonymous" probably doesn't have much to offer the animation community if he doesn't even know that Kevin is the TAG president.<BR/><BR/>I find that the nastiest comments here almost always come from students or non-professionals. Not always, but quite often.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-74834318934650648212008-07-06T10:41:00.000-07:002008-07-06T10:41:00.000-07:00Just to clarify, the "kevin" above is indeed the T...Just to clarify, the "kevin" above is indeed the TAG president (I think I've ended up with a couple of blogger profiles -- sorry if that confused you). Also, I don't think I have much trouble recognizing genuine snarkiness when I see it, any more than Vincent Waller and Animation Girl do.<BR/><BR/>And the poster above is correct that Steve and I decided to allow anonymous comments to foster discussion. On balance, we think it's useful, even if it also fosters snarkiness.Kevin Kochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03106628232118096961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-16142620460768803752008-07-05T18:52:00.000-07:002008-07-05T18:52:00.000-07:00Grrrrrooowwwl ;)Grrrrrooowwwl ;)Vincent Wallerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03505903461868673973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-35096970328713189332008-07-05T18:27:00.000-07:002008-07-05T18:27:00.000-07:00Words will be retired when no longer applicable. U...Words will be retired when no longer applicable. Until then..<BR/><BR/>Love,<BR/>Animator "Girl"<BR/><BR/>:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-13083364725460538212008-07-05T14:27:00.000-07:002008-07-05T14:27:00.000-07:00Hey. Anonymous, the matter is that you really have...Hey. Anonymous, the matter is that you really haven't even contributed ANYTHING to the thread. You just attacked someone for giving their opinion, and that a disservice to everyone. Because the more you attack people for saying things, the less gets said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-35660511020060158362008-07-05T13:37:00.000-07:002008-07-05T13:37:00.000-07:00I understand being Anon when sharing something tha...I understand being Anon when sharing something that might get you in Dutch with an employer.<BR/>But when speaking to other folks, it just appears...well not looking to call names, but you know how it appears.<BR/>I'll leave you throw what ever last words you want to throw. Maybe you will even do it with your real name. Maybe not.<BR/>Have great week endVincent Wallerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03505903461868673973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-28350187698114086862008-07-05T13:36:00.000-07:002008-07-05T13:36:00.000-07:00My guess is if the original comment was 'snide' an...My guess is if the original comment was 'snide' and 'bitter', as animator girl thinks, then that poster is probably as old or been in the business as long as Floyd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-34885558618948172872008-07-05T13:30:00.000-07:002008-07-05T13:30:00.000-07:00Interesting that the "Kevin" person has a profile ...Interesting that the "Kevin" person has a profile that's private-meaning that although he shares his first name with the union president and dozens of other guys in the business he's actually an "anonymous" as I am. <BR/><BR/>Oh, and my name's Kevin too. Or maybe not. Who cares?<BR/><BR/>Animator "girl": the Anonymous lengthy response above was spot on imo, not defensive or "bitter" (can we just retire that word?) at all. And he has a couple of good points. All of you make way too much of barely anything at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-69376556321013723432008-07-05T08:24:00.000-07:002008-07-05T08:24:00.000-07:00Please. From one "anonymous" to another, your comm...Please. From one "anonymous" to another, your comments totally came off as a jab on Floyd. How else should one interpret them? They sure didn't sound like compliments. They sounded like snide, bitter retorts. Your lengthy attempt at an explanation reveals your defensiveness but little else. <BR/><BR/>Animation GirlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-75459060355667767142008-07-05T07:58:00.000-07:002008-07-05T07:58:00.000-07:00As suggested before, you assume a lot. First you a...As suggested before, you assume a lot. <BR/>First you assume that statement was snarky and not in some way complimenting Floyd - I doubt you or Kevin would want to delve too deeply into why you both assumed it was a snark. Second you assume Floyd needs your help - as Floyd indicated himself and on countless of other occasions he doesn't especially as someone else noted Floyd has made a name for himself throwing out a snark or two. Third you assume that person who said the comment which may or may not have been snarky was younger than Floyd - guess what: Floyd isn't the only older member of this community. Fourth you assume that person wasn't someone along the lines of John Lasseter himself having a little fun with Floyd (or complimenting him).<BR/>There are many reasons to use the anonymous by-line. It sometimes fosters nastiness, but it also fosters freedom of thought that having to sign your name to wouldn't always. <BR/>This is such a small community that everyone knows everyone else (within reason) or will eventually work with everyone else. <BR/>The "they don't even have the balls to step into the light while they do it" is an old tired dare. I'm guessing everyone has probably posted anonymously when they wanted to say something slightly controversial or just didn't want to use their name.<BR/>This site would see a lot less activity if they removed that option and along with it the freedom of discussion that this site currently enjoys.<BR/>I think Kevin and Steve have rightly allowed the anonymous by-line to remain.<BR/><BR/>-enjoying being anonymousAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-65160936553437451112008-07-04T14:33:00.000-07:002008-07-04T14:33:00.000-07:00Oh I think everyone can use hand when they are bei...Oh I think everyone can use hand when they are being snarked from the Anon seats.Vincent Wallerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03505903461868673973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-57100529179450748222008-07-04T13:17:00.000-07:002008-07-04T13:17:00.000-07:00Hasn't Floyd made a name for himself at poking fun...Hasn't Floyd made a name for himself at poking fun at others that usually work above him? I'm sure Floyd doesn't need you two to defend him as if the only reason he should be respected is because of his age.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-29506582027335845582008-07-04T13:14:00.000-07:002008-07-04T13:14:00.000-07:00Why did Kevin and Vincent assume that was a snarky...Why did Kevin and Vincent assume that was a snarky remark that someone made earlier? It could be taken that way, I guess, but it could also be taken as a positive - couldn't it? <BR/>If it were meant to be snarky it sure could've been said a lot nastier and clearer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-57542771590107754802008-07-04T12:35:00.000-07:002008-07-04T12:35:00.000-07:00Not sure what the problem is, guys. I've never cla...Not sure what the problem is, guys. <BR/><BR/>I've never claimed to be any kind of animation big shot at Disney or Pixar. Hell, I don't even know John Lasseter -- and I was just a kid when I worked for Walt. However, I did observed these guys carefully because I wanted to know what made them tick.<BR/><BR/>In truth, I'm not that different from the rest of you, except I'm a bit older, and learned how to survive in an often unstable business. I sure don't see myself as anything special, nor do I buy into the studio "bull" of honors, awards, and "legendary status."Floyd Normanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08635960964922892254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-82698190694591881842008-07-04T11:53:00.000-07:002008-07-04T11:53:00.000-07:00Yeah, its disappointing, and they don't even have ...Yeah, its disappointing, and they don't even have the balls to step into the light while they do it.Vincent Wallerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03505903461868673973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-21907655393600824982008-07-04T11:30:00.000-07:002008-07-04T11:30:00.000-07:00Damn, what happened to respecting our elders? Thi...Damn, what happened to respecting our elders? This kind of snark directed at someone who's had an incredibly long and distinguished career in animation is disappointing and unseemly.Kevin Kochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03106628232118096961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-84427405725313590242008-07-04T10:59:00.000-07:002008-07-04T10:59:00.000-07:00That's why he's able to channel Walt so authoritat...That's why he's able to channel Walt so authoritatively.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-90721317791859309492008-07-04T00:08:00.000-07:002008-07-04T00:08:00.000-07:00You worked at Disney, too?You worked at Disney, too?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-43230408493788690952008-07-03T15:11:00.000-07:002008-07-03T15:11:00.000-07:00I worked on two features up at Pixar. Though hardl...I worked on two features up at Pixar. Though hardly a lifetime, I was able to get a pretty good sense of Mr. Jobs. Even spoke with him on a number of occasions.<BR/><BR/>I learned enough during my brief time at Pixar. Much the same way I learned much about Walt Disney during my brief stint in story on "The Jungle Book."Floyd Normanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08635960964922892254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-86480220059472101782008-07-03T15:05:00.000-07:002008-07-03T15:05:00.000-07:00"Who is the management at dreamworks Feature Anima..."Who is the management at dreamworks Feature Animation? Who is calling the shots there now? Who is everyone answering to? Who has final say?"<BR/><BR/>Little Jeffery Katzemberg. No wonder they keep trying so hard to make a good film.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-85627663503943875922008-07-03T14:35:00.000-07:002008-07-03T14:35:00.000-07:00Note to self. Always preview ones messages.Note to self. Always preview ones messages.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-79012823953999350462008-07-03T14:34:00.000-07:002008-07-03T14:34:00.000-07:00If I had a dollar for every time I heard an execut...If I had a dollar for every time I heard an executive or gate keeper say the words"SpongeBob was a fluke" I'd be able happily fill up up my gas swelling SUV many many times.<BR/>Alert! It wasn't a Fluke! It was very talented people being allowed their freedom to create.<BR/><BR/>Keep an Eye on The Mighty B. Her rating are looking like a mighty wave rising.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-83250412472735794522008-07-03T12:26:00.000-07:002008-07-03T12:26:00.000-07:00"Robiscus is right on all counts..."Then the plane...<I>"Robiscus is right on all counts..."</I><BR/><BR/>Then the planets must be aligned, because its indeed a rare and magical occasion when that happens....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com