tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post3901202659538866211..comments2024-03-26T22:42:06.412-07:00Comments on TAG Blog: John Carter a flop .. or is it?Steve Huletthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-71260819760762652892012-03-24T09:04:11.087-07:002012-03-24T09:04:11.087-07:00Studios have been 'dumping' films almost s...Studios have been 'dumping' films almost since film began. Feature's left unreleased for years, films given no promotion, some just sent direct to video. Think spectacle and animated films are more visible due to their smaller numbers. Carter is no different than Cats Don't Dance or Rover Dangerfield.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-49419354777932357972012-03-23T09:50:47.589-07:002012-03-23T09:50:47.589-07:00Mars who?
d.Mars who?<br /><br />d.diablonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-28809600728625514572012-03-23T08:40:44.707-07:002012-03-23T08:40:44.707-07:00--> The Muppets' next appearance will be o...--> The Muppets' next appearance will be on: The Bachelorette.<br /><br />--> I am not making that up.<br /><br /><br />Actually, Statler and Waldorf were on this week's edition of The Soup on E!. Yes, yes they were. C'mon, Disney, ... The Soup!?!?<br /><br /><br /><br />--->> Disney did the same with the Zemekis travesty of MARS NEEDS MOMS, it cut the film loose after a week.<br /><br />Actually, they cut that film loose when Christmas Carol bombed 15 months earlier. They were too far into pre-pro to just drop it, and the fall-out from the bad PR about Zemeckis needed to be attenuated somewhat. There were virtually no commercials ahead of its release, really none by comparison to any other Disney film. The DVD went straight to WalMart, with no ads at all for its release.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-33353631939567733092012-03-22T18:01:10.037-07:002012-03-22T18:01:10.037-07:00Yes, it's a flop. Just go see the movie. It&...Yes, it's a flop. Just go see the movie. It'll be on ABC Family next week. Next thread.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-2024626425441455472012-03-21T22:02:12.382-07:002012-03-21T22:02:12.382-07:00I always start reading these comments from the bot...I always start reading these comments from the bottom of the list, so I can see where the conversation lead to, right up front.<br /><br />Good to see the TAG comments in fine form, as usual.Lord Jesusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-28757337771439726732012-03-21T10:43:35.489-07:002012-03-21T10:43:35.489-07:00"Dear either Steve,
Please close off the ano...<i>"Dear either Steve, <br />Please close off the anonymous posting option so the folks who actually work on these movies can maintain the high level of denial that is required to whaa whaa whaaa"</i><br /><br />You don't have to read the comments if you don't like them. This is not North Korea, or Berlin circa 1970's.<br />Piss off!<br /><br />d.diablonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-55375803563720483212012-03-20T22:54:07.494-07:002012-03-20T22:54:07.494-07:00No, I didnt mean retarded in the juvenile way.
...No, I didnt mean retarded in the juvenile way. <br /><br />I mean retarded in the literal way. As in "you are completely and utterly mentally deficient if you think Finding Nemo is bad and John Carter is good." I think you've demonstrated a case where it MIGHT be possible to have a wrong opinion, with a position that retarded.<br /><br />We clear, retard?<br /><br />PS) Im new to this conversation, so dont go lumping my comments in with whoever else you've been arguing with.gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-9020618162517516592012-03-20T22:00:56.769-07:002012-03-20T22:00:56.769-07:00Wait a minute...we're arguing with a 7 year ol...Wait a minute...we're arguing with a 7 year old? Sorry. Tell your mommy you need to be read to from your Barney book so you can get to sleep.<br /><br /><br />BTW we tell your mommy you're using the R word either, but you might want to stop it before you get grounded.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-15386665835773656032012-03-20T21:16:14.257-07:002012-03-20T21:16:14.257-07:00Wait, let me get this straight. You didnt like Fi...Wait, let me get this straight. You didnt like Finding Nemo but liked John Carter?<br /><br />Oh. <br /><br />So, you're like, retarded.gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-10721965900927082452012-03-20T20:28:20.508-07:002012-03-20T20:28:20.508-07:00And Blade Runner is pretty awful, too.And Blade Runner is pretty awful, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-14804993687139000702012-03-20T20:08:26.786-07:002012-03-20T20:08:26.786-07:00and BTW Frog Princess was only a meh Disney film.and BTW Frog Princess was only a meh Disney film.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-5712699749719024202012-03-20T19:59:55.027-07:002012-03-20T19:59:55.027-07:00Once again, that's a huge assumption on your p...Once again, that's a huge assumption on your part. And a wrong one.<br /><br />I'm not a Stanton fan at all (in fact I disliked Wall-E and Nemo) and most of those I speak to couldn't care less about his past films.<br />It's this film that is gaining the support.<br />Stop trying to find a reason for the support other than it's a film that is liked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-36063530677022149222012-03-20T19:33:43.069-07:002012-03-20T19:33:43.069-07:00When Princess and the Frog disappointed, nobody qu...When Princess and the Frog disappointed, nobody questioned it. It was understood as a disappointment. <br /><br />Now, John Carter clearly flops and it seems like every Andrew Stanton fan is rallying together to save its reputation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-34869166960603060712012-03-20T19:07:34.183-07:002012-03-20T19:07:34.183-07:00Yes, please listen to the anonymous troll who'...Yes, please listen to the anonymous troll who's feelings are getting hurt because he can't convince anyone that he's right, dammit!!!<br /><br />Clearly you aren't very knowledgeable or you'd know that virtually no AG members were involved in this film. Nice try though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-19010340177461335452012-03-20T17:50:48.450-07:002012-03-20T17:50:48.450-07:00Dear either Steve,
Please close off the anonymous...Dear either Steve, <br />Please close off the anonymous posting option so the folks who actually work on these movies can maintain the high level of denial that is required to cheerlead themselves through even the worst box office bombs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-39955930155604475262012-03-20T16:40:15.764-07:002012-03-20T16:40:15.764-07:00That's the closest you've gotten to a true...That's the closest you've gotten to a true statement in all your ramblings.<br /><br />Because you have an film school student's knowledge of film discussing real film with you is useless.yahwehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-30306769344537772652012-03-20T14:17:28.726-07:002012-03-20T14:17:28.726-07:00Okay, now I've seen it all. Someone just inje...Okay, now I've seen it all. Someone just injected a Ridley Scott film into a conversation about a Disney Company vanity project. I quit. This is uselessAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-4230576943794712882012-03-20T14:08:02.273-07:002012-03-20T14:08:02.273-07:00wow, this really bothers you that a film you think...wow, this really bothers you that a film you think is bad actually has a pretty big fan base and did receive some very passionate reviews.<br />BTW most of these other films you're comparing John Carter to had absolutely no one defending them.<br />This is more in line with Blade Runner than any of the films you and the negative press are trying to compare it to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-46037471985640095522012-03-20T13:58:48.547-07:002012-03-20T13:58:48.547-07:00Disney did the same with the Zemekis travesty of M...Disney did the same with the Zemekis travesty of MARS NEEDS MOMS, it cut the film loose after a week. Sad to see it happen again and with so much money at stake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-91711761552788964662012-03-20T09:54:48.744-07:002012-03-20T09:54:48.744-07:00And holy crap, there is actually a John Carter web...And holy crap, there is actually a John Carter website devoted to delusion. What a world this is. Amazing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-32449972523037659512012-03-20T09:47:20.234-07:002012-03-20T09:47:20.234-07:00Look friend, no offense, but you cannot defend the...Look friend, no offense, but you cannot defend the quality of this movie. You just can't. It's just not a well-crafted film. Sure, some of the effects were interesting, but so are fireworks. We all go ohhh, ahhh, etc. But that's not why people see movies. It's everything people hate about being suckered into throwing down a twenty on a Friday night - sucker punched by bells and whistles. It delivers nothing new, nothing to hang your hat on, nothing particularly special. You don't have to be an expert on story to know that. That's exactly the type of arrogance that gets directors and writers in trouble - well, they just don't understand. They haven't read Joseph Campbell. They don't get the Cosmological Function, the Monomyth, yada, yada.<br /><br />Yeah, well, no one really gives a crap. It's a Hollywood movie. Spend that much money, you better hit the right beats where they matter. It took, what, twenty minutes to even figure out John Carter was worth following? Twenty minutes of 'dark, mysterious, cool stranger!...who disappeared and his nephew has to find out what happened to this guy we are supposed to think is amazing and cool!' It took putting the guy on Mars and calling him Virginia to make him interesting. Ugh. Talk about bad foreplay. Take the viagra already and let's get on with it, grandpa. I could go on, but why.<br /><br />And I'm not the one drinking the kool aid if you're busy trying to figure out who they are going to pin this on and why. The studio is only doing what they do best, covering their asses. Of course heads will roll.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-55351586322588561082012-03-20T09:28:07.322-07:002012-03-20T09:28:07.322-07:00"Good or bad film, conspiracy or just stupidi...<b><i>"Good or bad film, conspiracy or just stupidity, I agree, I've never seen a studio write off a film so quickly..."</i></b><br /><br /><br /><br />"Treasure Planet" was written off the Monday following its release, if memory serves correctly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-61217528249371551152012-03-20T09:21:57.798-07:002012-03-20T09:21:57.798-07:00This is from a fan of the film so I'm sure som...This is from a fan of the film so I'm sure some will look at it with suspicion, but it feels right and headed in the right direction:<br /><br />http://thejohncarterfiles.com/2012/03/our-view-its-now-clear-disney-has-been-treating-john-carter-like-a-hospice-patient-all-along/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-37026292006607554822012-03-20T09:12:17.745-07:002012-03-20T09:12:17.745-07:00I hope you're not working in features in story...I hope you're not working in features in story.<br />You blather like a critic who thinks he knows something. Lots of nice catch phrases, but no support to any of them.<br /><br />You also seem confused about what is being discussed in Hollywood as well. You're listening to how Disney wants to spin this. It appears this is turning into an attempt to oust Ross.<br />That's what I'm hearing. Not what you're hearing on the morning news via press release from DisneyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-76520647330670865572012-03-20T08:51:17.799-07:002012-03-20T08:51:17.799-07:00Oh, please, stop. Yes, I did see it. Very. Uncle...Oh, please, stop. Yes, I did see it. Very. Unclear. Movie. Confusing plot, it asks you to buy far to much up front. Too many threads to track, so none get serviced well. In fact, most collapse from their own weight. Hero pretty much lays there like a wet blanket. But to be fair, there is no interesting material for characters to work with in between the usual CG fireworks. The character work is the stuff that matters, remember? Writing? Actors? That stuff? The material reads like a really bad fanboy fantasy epic scribbled in the margins of his math homework. It reminded me of a bad version of Dune - yeah, that thing is a masterpiece compared to this. Could they have at least released an app with the movie so I could translate the weird names? It would have helped me follow which Roman legionnaire I was looking at, which weird named dude they were talking about. This film was a disappointment. Having said that, the thing everyone is talking about in town is how you can blow that much money without realizing you bought an E ticket on a runaway train to box office hell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com