tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post4491724726601945936..comments2024-03-26T22:42:06.412-07:00Comments on TAG Blog: The Mouse HouseSteve Huletthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comBlogger135125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-23075228252943460462010-08-19T23:53:55.757-07:002010-08-19T23:53:55.757-07:00This post has degenerated to the point of being ju...This post has degenerated to the point of being just a bunch of talking heads screaming at each other and no one listening to anyone.Volus Jonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-63156236750893865332010-08-19T13:39:19.604-07:002010-08-19T13:39:19.604-07:00I still say it's Bush's fault. Someone sh...I still say it's Bush's fault. Someone should do a study:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-47750358185161488812010-08-19T12:55:52.312-07:002010-08-19T12:55:52.312-07:00@Denise. You have nothing to be sorry for! Keep ...@Denise. You have nothing to be sorry for! Keep posting and don't give a second thought to the negative tirades that you see on this blog. <br /><br />Frankly, in person most of these anonymous posters are really very nice people! There's just something about the ability to be anonymous that makes a few of them turn into cranky know-it-alls. Someone should do a study:)<br /><br />Cheers!<br /><br />Bob & RobBob and Rob Professional American Writershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13273869278815498283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-58079934454016381642010-08-19T10:53:20.941-07:002010-08-19T10:53:20.941-07:00@1:09 Friendship. Coward. That sounds personal. ...@1:09 Friendship. Coward. That sounds personal. I'm sorry. Do I even know you? If I did maybe I would post on your wall instead of here. <br /><br />As for 'Noob' I'll take full credit on that one. <br /><br />As of yesterday, I was completely unfamiliar with TAG and that was my first time posting here. The only reason I came to this site in the first place was because the topic of this blog came up when chatting with my classmates. We have been following Tangled religiously. My friend posted a facebook status update and url that she got from a former classmate who claimed the source came from someone at Disney.<br /><br />We're not even 100% sure who's facebook page it was from or where it originated, so I guess I don't have all the information. Yes, I guess I'm one of the 'uninformed idiots.' We just figured if we were able to access all this info via facebook, who else could it reach? We were just trying to help (by I guess, stating the obvious) because we care.<br /><br />On the flip side, we thought Clay's (and others) posts here were very good and encouraging to us students. We are huge Disney fans and I for one would love to work there some day. Especially with Glen Keane! I can't believe for a second it is as bad as some people are making it out to be, but this kind of negativity spreading really saddens me. It just seems like this Steve guy isn't the only one putting the information out there, is all I was getting at.<br /><br />Please don't start pointing fingers at friends. I just thought I was trying to help to stop this from spreading further, but I guess it backfired. Being a student I had no business posting on this blog and I should have just stayed out of this. If I offended anyone, I'm sorry.<br /><br />-DeniseInnocent Noobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-38058575115684203682010-08-19T02:18:25.428-07:002010-08-19T02:18:25.428-07:00No, it's not Chris Wedge. He is one of "...No, it's not Chris Wedge. He is one of "them," not "us."Known Banditnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-91096328763935363502010-08-19T01:21:43.146-07:002010-08-19T01:21:43.146-07:00Chris Wedge, is that you?Chris Wedge, is that you?Conscientious Objectornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-44322345374813781402010-08-19T01:10:34.246-07:002010-08-19T01:10:34.246-07:00There may be people that read this who aren't ...There may be people that read this who aren't in the business, but the majority that do tend to work in animation. Most would find the rantings that go on here about the union and such, very boring. I'm not really worried about that.Scrathttp://www.blueskystudios.com/content/index.phpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-70484533798954944622010-08-19T01:09:50.370-07:002010-08-19T01:09:50.370-07:00@10:22 You don't know what are you talking abo...@10:22 You don't know what are you talking about. This blog hosted under google's blogger service is completely more searchable and spidered by search engines unless it is set up to be ignored, which it isn't. Facebook has privacy controls and isn't searched unless pages are public. Just throw this url into any search engine to see. If you have a problem with your facebook "friends" posting on their private walls why do you take the cowards' route and comment here anonymously? You don't understand friendship or the Internet. Noob.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-80813987705888091572010-08-19T00:28:10.463-07:002010-08-19T00:28:10.463-07:00"Gee, thanks Dad for the internet lesson.&quo..."Gee, thanks Dad for the internet lesson."<br /><br />To you and all of the nasty, snippy, laying in wait, pissy little balls of negative energy...God loves you...just a little less than the nicer people;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-34044544453266488102010-08-18T23:41:51.961-07:002010-08-18T23:41:51.961-07:00Gee, thanks Dad for the internet lesson.Gee, thanks Dad for the internet lesson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-70911132755586963052010-08-18T22:22:58.314-07:002010-08-18T22:22:58.314-07:00Something needs to be said regarding this, as this...Something needs to be said regarding this, as this has gotten really out of control. It is important to remember that this TAG blog is read by a limited number of people within the animation community.<br /><br />How would you feel if Steve posted this information on Facebook instead? Well, that would be unforgiveable! Right?<br /><br />Well, interestingly enough the very people that don't want this negativity to be "public" have replied to this thread and have posted the links to this very blog on their Facebook pages. Not only that, but while "patting themselves on the back" for it. <br /><br />It begs to question, which is more public: this forum or Facebook?<br /><br />Facebook is a social networking community comprised of millions of subscribers WORLDWIDE, many of whom would never read this blog otherwise.<br /><br />I'm not sure this type of conversation is meant for the masses or should be readily shared in such a large community of people like Facebook, which spreads like wildfires.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-44777283381452228822010-08-18T15:50:58.230-07:002010-08-18T15:50:58.230-07:00Anonymous, bitter?
Party of one, your table is re...Anonymous, bitter?<br /><br />Party of one, your table is ready.<br /><br />All is not doom and gloom in the Hat Building. It'll be amazing how much negativity disappears once they have a true hit.<br /><br />Negativity is too easy to wade in to. No thank you.King Louiehttp://www.disneyanimation.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-57144642614418784572010-08-18T15:49:56.970-07:002010-08-18T15:49:56.970-07:00For or Against what Steve originally wrote.
It...For or Against what Steve originally wrote.<br /><br />It's nice to hear artists speak up about how they feel within their work environment. Not that I don't trust Steve in his writings, it's hard to gain a real perspective on how things are going from just one person.<br /><br />Whether people feel negative, or positive right now in their morale. It's nice to hear them speak up in defence for their thoughts and feelings.Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-58663012639754142002010-08-18T14:18:44.669-07:002010-08-18T14:18:44.669-07:00Too close to the truth, eh?
Nothing to be ashamed ...Too close to the truth, eh?<br />Nothing to be ashamed of...it happens to a lot of people and with therapy they get over it eventuallyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-31835092961320079192010-08-18T13:29:05.268-07:002010-08-18T13:29:05.268-07:00Finally, well put and balanced.Finally, well put and balanced.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-17969274571078542192010-08-18T12:37:38.596-07:002010-08-18T12:37:38.596-07:00Wow, sounds like the Animation department had a di...Wow, sounds like the Animation department had a different experience than other departments. It's probably quite inspiring to work so closely with Glen Keane. <br /><br />When this movie is done, I never want it back. The work looks great. The people are great. The film will be fantastic. But I'm tired, burnt, being less creative and making less money than I did on Bolt. Never felt like more of a cog in a machine than now, and I've been here for a long time.<br /><br />Just to say, folks who say things are fantastic: your experience doesn't discount the fact that others might be experiencing something different, and that experience is legitimately different.<br /><br />Also to the people complaining: just because you had it bad doesn't mean that everyone who had it good are just corporate shills. <br /><br />Aparently things were great in other departments. I'm really happy for those folks!<br /><br />Everyone, can everyone calm the hell down and realize that some people had it bad, and that's their honest feelings (and not because they're negative nellies), and some people had it good, and that's THEIR honest feelings (and not because they're pollyannas or corporate kiss-butts).<br /><br />Also, the people who took personal shots at Clay need to frigging chillax. We're just making movies here, and the hate ain't worth what it does to your insides.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-11133022174825877422010-08-18T11:55:41.208-07:002010-08-18T11:55:41.208-07:00Rainbow Brite took the words right out of my mouth...Rainbow Brite took the words right out of my mouth!<br /><br />Working on Tangled was one of the most difficult, but also most rewarding experiences of my life, and I'd do it again in a heartbeat. And it was thanks to people like Clay and the other supervisors and crew that made it so special. And I think this "magic" will ultimately show up on screen when you guys see Tangled.<br /><br />So take all the negativity you read on this thread with a grain of salt, and think about the motives as to why someone would write something so personal, and so negative. <br /><br />But above all, just know that there's a lot of genuinely content, happy people here.<br /><br />PS) Im getting an executive back rub right now, as I write this. OH MY GOD it's awesome!!!!!!!Adam Greennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-77494007567159347892010-08-18T11:28:16.034-07:002010-08-18T11:28:16.034-07:00I'm keeping my post "Anonymous" to e...I'm keeping my post "Anonymous" to eliminate speculation that I'm trying to gain the favor of Disney execs and supervisors. I'm not management; I'm not Clay; I am a happy Disney animator.<br /><br />Is Disney all rainbows? Actually, yes. Everyone knows rainbows take a lot of sun, and a little rain. Obviously, no one likes layoffs. It hurts everyone to see our friends and talented coworkers leave. We're working hard to change the need for layoffs with Tangled and future projects, and I sincerely hope to see everyone come back in the near future. But despite this "rain," Disney is a much happier place than most of these comments suggest, and like Malcon, there is absolutely no where else I'd rather be. The people, including Top Talent, are inspiring...the projects are inspiring...the future is exciting.<br /><br /><br />I wish you could all be around to witness what it's really like to work with the people you so quickly lambaste. Clay Kaytis is one of the most genuine, hard working, and self-sacrificing people you will ever meet. He's not playing any games. And those pats on the back he doesn't seek, he deserves (not that he's gotten any).<br /><br />A note to Mr. Hulett: While I appreciate attempts at honest reporting, please keep in mind that when you poke your head in our cubes and offices - those sad, depressed looks are often brought on by visions of our misquoted comments TAGed in one of your bleak blog posts.<br /><br />Clay is right - this exaggerated negativity hurts us. It brings down morale. It spreads false rumors. I heard all these rumors of doom and gloom before starting at Disney...I'm so glad they were just Grim fairytales.<br /><br />-Rainbow BriteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-46759486440588811902010-08-18T11:19:03.915-07:002010-08-18T11:19:03.915-07:00You can say it, but it doesnt mean its true.You can say it, but it doesnt mean its true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-12341239034531637252010-08-18T11:09:56.759-07:002010-08-18T11:09:56.759-07:00Can anyone say "Stockholm Syndrome"?Can anyone say "Stockholm Syndrome"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-24448709262212320452010-08-18T10:24:08.306-07:002010-08-18T10:24:08.306-07:00Well said Clay. I really don't understand the...Well said Clay. I really don't understand the amount of venom and hate here directed at you and Disney in general.<br /><br />The people calling Disney a cesspool and an awful place to work are clearly out of touch with the reality at Disney now and of the industry as a whole. I just came off of Tangled and got to work with some of the most talented, passionate, and for the most part happy (gasp!) people in the industry. I would go back in a heart beat. I am curious where is the mythical studio of sunshine and daisies where every project is awesome, there are no politics, and no one gets let go? Disney was far and away the best experience I've had in the industry thus far.<br /><br />It's unfortunate that positive voices get outright dismissed at corporate shills.Matt Ornsteinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-89038437048692765182010-08-18T10:20:24.691-07:002010-08-18T10:20:24.691-07:00If they stop making as many films as often as the ...If they stop making as many films as often as the other studio, but actually use that time to make it a better film, then I'm all for that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-14008235851858785682010-08-18T09:51:21.937-07:002010-08-18T09:51:21.937-07:00It's much easier to move 'gently into the ...It's much easier to move 'gently into the night' when everyone forgets about you.yahwehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-48174579586125932872010-08-18T08:48:45.128-07:002010-08-18T08:48:45.128-07:00BREAKING NEWS:
It's official; after 2011, WD...BREAKING NEWS: <br /><br />It's official; after 2011, WDAS will only produce one feature every two years!<br /><br />So, it's Winnie the Pooh in 2011, Reboot Ralph in 2013, and the new feature in 2015, and so on...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-81342023169890822102010-08-18T08:25:37.692-07:002010-08-18T08:25:37.692-07:00Clay, I write this as someone who knows and respec...Clay, I write this as someone who knows and respects you, and as someone who has worked at Disney as well as at several other top studios. I'm afraid that the animators out in our very small community don't need this blog or Steve's insights to know that Disney has been a sour, embittering place to work for quite a while. You're blaming the messenger.<br /><br />I ask you, how many times can people get their hopes up that 'this time it's different'? How many times can you tell people 'if we just stay positive and work hard, everything has a chance to be great'? Everything you wrote is the kind of stuff that was said towards the end of Bolt, and Robinsons, and Chicken Little, and Princess and the Frog. It's gets a little old, this constant mantra that the 'real problem' is animator's negativity. The fact is, Disney has been a negative place, where people who dare to doubt, dare to question, dare to be skeptical are driven out. Disney is running out of talented people to drive away. I wish the problem really was Steve Hulett. That would be an easy problem to solve. But you can only blame the messenger so long.<br /><br />And Clay, you chose to ignore that Hulett has been relentlessly upbeat about how Tangled looks, and how good he hears it is from the crew. He's been consistent with that.<br /><br />I've been at Disney, I'm working with a lot of people who used to be there, and I'm friends with a precious few who still are. Steve's only telling it like it is. I know that goes against the grain of the new management, but it's not the 'perception' of life at Disney that needs to improve. It's the actual feature animation work environment.<br /><br />Maybe Tangled will be the hit it deserves to be, and everyone will chill out a little, and the workplace will stop feeling like a place where you have to be a Stepford animator to survive. Personally, I'm happy to be out of there, and working at a studio where having passion AND having opinions are valued and rewarded.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com