tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post4889774363263833163..comments2024-03-29T02:18:35.303-07:00Comments on TAG Blog: Black-Listing Fears Never DieSteve Huletthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-79261764118646425442009-11-18T18:04:25.768-08:002009-11-18T18:04:25.768-08:00Hey, Arlo, it's JON Stewart.
NMow when do you...Hey, Arlo, it's JON Stewart.<br /><br />NMow when do you aplogize for being an egotistical douchebag?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-45961943576896733932009-11-18T12:32:58.768-08:002009-11-18T12:32:58.768-08:00The US dropped Atomic Bombs, not H Bombs ARLO!
An...The US dropped Atomic Bombs, not H Bombs ARLO!<br /><br />And it remains the only country in the world to have dropped nuclear weapons on civilians to this date.<br /><br />But I guess it's ok to Arlo to kill japanese civilians.<br /><br />rufus.skadinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-32320504909917315012009-11-17T20:18:09.388-08:002009-11-17T20:18:09.388-08:00Ever notice how Right Wing Republicans often rail ...<i>Ever notice how Right Wing Republicans often rail about the horrid Cuban regime but have nothing to say about the Chinese? Guess why that is.</i><br /><br />No Steve. The railing about the Cuban regime is there because the nation was taken over by communist forces and anyone deemed unfriendly to their cause were ejected from the nation(if they were lucky), imprisoned or killed. What you have is a free society that was trampled and subjugated by communists.<br />China on the other hand was never free. It was always under a totalitarian rule.<br /><br />There's also the slight difference in that Cuba had missiles pointed at the US - and as recently disclosed documents reveal, Castro wanted to pull the trigger but Russia ordered him not to.<br /><br />Thats the difference.<br /><br /><br />But let me give the floor to the mental midgets that think that Truman was a war criminal for dropping the H Bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Lets let the idiots talk. They are so smug and so stupid they didn't even learn from John Stewart, who apologized when he suggested the very same thing.<br /><br />Please look into the subject before you spout off about it.Arlonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-4722062076758980112009-11-17T08:55:17.590-08:002009-11-17T08:55:17.590-08:00Dude, you guys. Arlo is a TROLL.
DONT FEED THE ...Dude, you guys. Arlo is a TROLL. <br /><br />DONT FEED THE TROLLS!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-58849925090689713672009-11-16T21:09:53.835-08:002009-11-16T21:09:53.835-08:00reagun had little to do with toppling the Russian ...reagun had little to do with toppling the Russian State. They were broke. End of story. And reagun was hell bent on breaking the U.S., which he's done. Took Presdident Clinton to bring us out of that hole, only to have a shit like bush and darth cheney to put us back in it, deeper than before.<br /><br />No, reagun was one evil sonofabitch. Glad he's dead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-18217352793904309382009-11-16T10:19:16.573-08:002009-11-16T10:19:16.573-08:00to arlo:
"Careful. You're using a subjec...to arlo:<br /><br />"Careful. You're using a subject to prove a point without knowing jack squat about said subject and if you start bemoaning the death toll of those events, then I'll just have to post the important historical facts that you are too ignorant to know. Thus making you look like more of a ranting raving foolish child"<br /><br />You think you're the only one with history books on his shelf?<br /><br />It's easy to demonize the "others". And "fear" is always used as a tool to control people. <br /><br />And off course whoever does not agree with you, you insult, and demonize and accuse them of supporting the "other", of being anti-american. We are just calling your bullshit, and you don't like it! Who's the whining baby now?<br /><br />r.rufusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-71673526432940633682009-11-16T08:49:44.330-08:002009-11-16T08:49:44.330-08:00You bemoan the efforts against communism and ridic...<b>You bemoan the efforts against communism and ridicule the president that had the most effect on toppling the russian communist state. Because you pretend the ugly truth about communism don't exist ...</b><br /><br />Arlo?? The transmission seems to be breaking up, because you don't seem to get sarcasm when you read it.<br /><br />I <b>voted</b> for Ronald Reagan, folk-singer boy.<br /><br />You're so busy launching your bromides circa 1954, that you miss what I've been freaking saying: <b>Fear</b> is often the driver for conniving politicians (Left and Right) and capitalists.<br /><br />Period.<br /><br />And those awful communists that seem to have you wetting your bed in abject terror? The ones that killed Our Boys in Korea? They got themselves recognized by Richard Nixon and every politician since. The Chinese communists now <b>own</b> us.<br /><br />Ever notice how Right Wing Republicans often <b>rail</b> about the horrid Cuban regime but have nothing to say about the Chinese? Guess why that is.<br /><br />M-O-N-E-Y.<br /><br />And as I've said here numerous times, when the Roberts court makes it legal for corporations to contribute directly to American elections (and the SCOTUS will), you'll get the Red Chinese army -- which runs and controls any number of international coporations -- buying American politicians.<br /><br />All this will be courtesy of the Sons and Daughters of Nixon and Reagan, both of them Republicans, last time I checked.<br /><br />So why don't you focus on THAT, guitar strummer, instead of nattering on about the HUAC in the long-ago age of McCarthy, and whether Robert Montgomery has his name removed from a crumbling building in Culver City? <br /><br />Cripes.Steve Huletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-18671824347296531522009-11-16T00:03:53.897-08:002009-11-16T00:03:53.897-08:00FREE MUMIA!!FREE MUMIA!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-85364241961349268492009-11-15T23:28:57.840-08:002009-11-15T23:28:57.840-08:00May I remind arlo about Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
...<i>May I remind arlo about Hiroshima and Nagasaki?</i><br /><br /><br />Careful. You're using a subject to prove a point without knowing jack squat about said subject and if you start bemoaning the death toll of those events, then I'll just have to post the important historical facts that you are too ignorant to know. Thus making you look like more of a ranting raving foolish child.<br /><br />If thats possible.Arlonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-89429401818918193502009-11-15T21:47:40.851-08:002009-11-15T21:47:40.851-08:00reagun was scum. But I sure wished there were pic...reagun was scum. But I sure wished there were pictures from his affair (yes) with Tyrone Power.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-6775350127432136722009-11-15T18:59:04.852-08:002009-11-15T18:59:04.852-08:00Don't forget that according to Reagan, "N...Don't forget that according to Reagan, "Nicaragua was a threat to the USs national security". what a load of crap!<br /><br />Dead bodies?<br /><br />May I remind arlo about Hiroshima and Nagasaki? How about the massacres in East Timor, with the support of the US?<br /><br /><br />People with conservative views have no fear at all of broadcasting their views and their religion/superstitions to the rest of the people. Bible study everyone?<br /><br />On top of that, they like to portray themselves as the victims. <br />What a load of crap!<br /><br />Effing typical.<br /><br /><br /><br />rufusrufusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1453750665934690022009-11-15T17:53:49.960-08:002009-11-15T17:53:49.960-08:00ronald reagun was a terrorist--selling arms to ter...ronald reagun was a terrorist--selling arms to terrorists to fund an illegal war in Central America and lying about it. <br /><br />Thankfully, he's burning in hell now, sitting right next to his hero Saddam Hussein, and saving seats for bush and darth cheney.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-72939532341565506472009-11-15T17:52:16.315-08:002009-11-15T17:52:16.315-08:00"By contrast, today's teabagging movement...<i>"By contrast, today's teabagging movement has some serious anti-American undertones. In addition to disrespecting the office of the Presidency"</i><br /><br /><br />OMG!! ITS AN OUTRAGE!<br /><br />Where have yo been for the last eight years? Name ONE incident of disrespecting the office of the presidency during this president's term that even comes close to the ignorant moronic barrage of insults, threats and 'disrespect' that went on during Bush's.<br /><br />You are exactly as I categorized you. One who puts his party before his country. If the nation's elected leader makes decisions you don't agree with , then the nation doesn't represent you. And its a HUGE injustice. Because you never grew up. You are partial to victimizing yourself and temper tantrums.<br /><br />Guess what? Every single minute of every single day has someone in this nation disagreeing with what the elected leader is doing no matter who they are.<br />What makes you so different? You feel different? You think you're special because your mommy told you so?<br /><br />People disagree with every president. <br /><br />Our last president you wished ill will towards because you didn't agree with him and you meet any opposition towards the current president with righteous indignation.<br /><br />You're a child. A clown.Arlonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-38333575536208471762009-11-15T17:43:23.102-08:002009-11-15T17:43:23.102-08:00Uh, Earth to Arlo. Kazan received it."
And t...<i>Uh, Earth to Arlo. Kazan received it."</i><br /><br />And thats a good thing, but what isn't said is that he was up for it about ten times before that, and every time he was passed over - with the reason being that he cooperated with the HUAC. <br />He should not have been passed over at all, and especially not for that reason.<br /><br /><br /><i>"<br />Not long ago, a bunch of conservatives started a campaign to put the notorious conservative Ronald Reagan's name on a Washington Airport ... It's truly awful"</i><br /><br /><br />I love when the mask slips Steve and you reveal yourself to have typical, hollywood, delusional, far left views. If you think Ronald Reagan was a 'notorious' man and giving him the similar recognition as every other two term president (not to mention his ending of the cold war), then you stand on the wrong side of history.<br /><br />You bemoan the efforts against communism and ridicule the president that had the most effect on toppling the russian communist state. Because you pretend the ugly truth about communism don't exist:<br /><br /><br />That it is and always has been a boot on the face of humanity and in the modern age, its responsible for hundreds of millions of dead bodies in ditches - a higher toll of death and suffering than any religious cause. Defending communism is like defending Nazism.Arlonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-83986356942478543812009-11-15T16:38:47.964-08:002009-11-15T16:38:47.964-08:00Oh God. Arlo the troll is back?
I thought he w...Oh God. Arlo the troll is back? <br /><br />I thought he was too busy downloading movies to post here anymore.<br /><br />Do us all a favor Arlo...<br /><br />Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-81509430632272050382009-11-15T01:30:40.319-08:002009-11-15T01:30:40.319-08:00The problem with most conservatives is they've...The problem with most conservatives is they've not read the Constitution, nor understand that it's a DELIBERATELY SECULAR document. They've mixed religion with politics until they're one. We do not, nor do we want to live in a theocracy.<br /><br />"christianity," and most theist religions, are inherently anti-Democratic, and therefore anti-U.S. Constitution. Practicing a religion as a personal excercise is fine. But thrusting it upon the majority of U.S. Citizens is as bad as the Taliban thrusting it upon theirs.<br /><br />Fundamentalism in America is, and always has been a FAR greater threat to our freedoms than Communism. And far more violent, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-46747691393429263862009-11-15T00:23:08.486-08:002009-11-15T00:23:08.486-08:00One last point about Kazan:
He wasn't reviled...One last point about Kazan:<br /><br />He wasn't reviled so much because he named names (lots of people did that). He was reviled because he took out an ad in the NY Times <b>bragging</b> about it, rubbing everybody's nose in it.<br /><br />Just so we're clear.Steve Huletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-16796833377895406942009-11-15T00:15:19.478-08:002009-11-15T00:15:19.478-08:00Arlo, I love your folk-singing, but your politics?...Arlo, I love your folk-singing, but your politics? ... not quite so much. However, a couple of points:<br /><br /><b>It was in the decades afterwards when he was black listed - by liberal jackasses in hollywood who blocked hi lifetime achievement Oscar over a dozen times until he finally received it. ... He agreed with the anti communist effort and hollywood never forgave him and wanted to punish him. </b><br /><br />Lessee. "[Kazan] agreed with the anti communist effort and hollywood never forgave him" ... "liberal jackasses in hollywood ... block his lifetime achievement Oscar ... <b>until he finally received it."</b><br /><br />Uh, Earth to Arlo. Kazan received it., championed by the liberal Martin Scorcese who stood behind him on the academy stage as Kazan read his acceptance speech.<br /><br /><b>Not long ago, two liberal writers at the Sony lot started a campaign and successfully had Robert Montgomery's name was taken off a building because he was a "friendly witness" to the HUAC </b><br /><br />Explain to me how removing the name of a dead actor from an old building on an older movie lot is similar to running somebody out of an industry. I must be missing something.<br /><br />Not long ago, a bunch of conservatives started a campaign to put the notorious conservative Ronald Reagan's name on a Washington Airport and various large Washington buildings. And they were successful.<br /><br />It's truly awful, but why should I give a shit about <b>this</b> either?Steve Huletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-19309812114206206972009-11-14T23:17:13.037-08:002009-11-14T23:17:13.037-08:00Arlo-
You have such a warped view on what it mean...Arlo-<br /><br />You have such a warped view on what it means to be an American, and the concept of freedom and liberty. Under your conception, America should not be a free country.<br /><br />1) It's not illegal to be a member of a political party, even the Communist party, if that's what a person wants to be. It's a little thing called freedom of association. Freedom. The thing America was built on. The freedom to believe what you want to believe. And it's guaranteed in the Constitution.<br /><br />2) Kazan indeed did what the HUAC wanted him to do--he named names. He named people who had had a <i>past association</i> with the Communist party, and who were certainly not Soviet spies, who had done nothing illegal, or any such nonsense. He ruined people's lives by enabling the HUAC to deny them their American freedoms and liberties, and unjustly tarnish their reputations.<br /><br />Nowhere is it documented in any way that those accused by HUAC had "an allegiance to a communist cause over their nation." Total absurdity. Again, for most of those accused, by the 50's, involvement in the communist party was a distant memory from decades before.<br /><br />By contrast, today's teabagging movement has some serious anti-American undertones. In addition to disrespecting the office of the Presidency, there are some (like the governor of Texas) who have called for secession from the Union. How deeply anti-American. I would say he's a borderline traitor, and if he pursues that action, he should be captured and tried for treason, along with his co-conspirators.<br /><br />Furthermore, there have been unsubtle calls for violence in the teabagging movement, and that is NOT protected by the Constitution. Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the teabagging movement, Arlo?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-62110738577360888362009-11-14T19:16:06.000-08:002009-11-14T19:16:06.000-08:00This is the type of limited intelligence that Beck...This is the type of limited intelligence that Beck and Limbaugh thrive on. Thank you, Arlo, for the demonstration.<br /><br />Now be a proud teabagger and tell everyone your full name so we can avoid you and your rantings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-12371867522346733662009-11-14T18:14:25.647-08:002009-11-14T18:14:25.647-08:00"Destroying people's lives because of a p...<i>"Destroying people's lives because of a past association of a movement</i><br /><br /><br />People's lives were not ruined merely because of a past association. You are grossly misinformed. People's lives were "ruined" when they revealed that they had allegiances to a communist cause that were a priority over their allegiance to their nation.<br /><br />Elia Kazan was a member of the communist party, and he told the HUAC what they wanted to know. Because he believed in the cause of shining a light on communist causes in the nation at a time when espionage was at an all time high(because of the H bomb).<br />He wasn't blacxk listed by the HUAC.<br /><br />It was in the decades afterwards when he was black listed - by liberal jackasses in hollywood who blocked hi lifetime achievement Oscar over a dozen times until he finally received it. You howl in here about how unfair it is for an actor to suffer for their political affiliations and the fact of the matter is that Kazan did suffer for his political stands. He agreed with the anti communist effort and hollywood never forgave him and wanted to punish him.<br /><br />Not long ago, two liberal writers at the Sony lot started a campaign and successfully had Robert Montgomery's name was taken off a building because he was a "friendly witness" to the HUAC.<br />I guess that kind of blacklisting doesn't count when you want to discuss the issue huh?Arlonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-70213368674432483892009-11-14T15:38:52.505-08:002009-11-14T15:38:52.505-08:00Dalton Trumbo was a communist. Dalton Trumbo got f...Dalton Trumbo was a communist. Dalton Trumbo got fired by the studios for being a communist.<br /><br />Whereupon the studios went on employing him under a pseudonym.<br /><br />In 1960 Kirk Douglas ended the charade by putting Trumbo's name on "Spartacus."<br /><br />At this remove, we can see that a lot of the witch hunt was overblown. (But look at the bright side; nobody got loaded in trucks and driven off to a concentration camp. That happened in the 1942-1945 period under the Roosevelt Administration, when Americans with the wrong ethnicity got stripped of their possessions and hustled off to barbed wire enclaves in the desert.)<br /><br />Last year we had folks yelling: "Country First!" and suggesting that anyone who didn't support the Commander in Chief was borderline traitorous. Now, because the same crowd doesn't like the new Commander in Chief, not supporting same is the highest form of patriotism.<br /><br />Pardon me while I adjust my neck for whiplashSteve Huletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-60418589327841650642009-11-14T13:27:24.887-08:002009-11-14T13:27:24.887-08:00"Communist Russia's efforts to overthrow ..."Communist Russia's efforts to overthrow the US government are well documented..."<br /><br />Go ahead, Arlo, cite the "documents." We're listening.<br /><br />"...acts that are arguably treasonous."<br /><br />"Arguably?" That's the point, isn't it? When the simple act of joining a political party becomes an act of treason then this is no longer America. The enemy has already won. That's what the HUAC was trying to do. What they were doing in the name of defending the country started to smell bad. When the stink got to be too strong to ignore, Senator McCarthy got "busted" by congress.<br /><br />Just because some of the suspected Communist sympathizers were actual Communist sympathizers, it still doesn't mean they were traitors, even though that was the perception that the supporters of the HUAC and their methods were trying to create.<br /><br />All countries have spies, lobbyists and sympathizers. That's normal. Maybe the Stalin administration was actually dreaming of or working to achieve a Communist take over of the American government. So what? It doesn't mean he had a snowball's chance in hell. It just means he didn't understand America. The world political situation in the fifties was no more than a rivalry, "cold war" between two superpowers for spheres of influence. For reasons of gaining power and control, the American right cast it as a war of ideologies. If Liberals are "pinkos" and pinkos are traitors, then Conservatives become heroes, saving the country from the enemy in an ersatz WWII scenario.<br /><br />Just look at how they behaved recently. They specialize in achieving their political goals through fear and paranoia. Even a common sense issue like health care reform becomes fear fodder; the government is going to come between you and your doctor. They're going to limit your choices. They will delay or deny you coverage- as if private insurance was already doing all that. <br /><br />That's all they ever do- tell us what to be afraid of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-43107526215491455672009-11-14T12:29:58.280-08:002009-11-14T12:29:58.280-08:00That you will not support our Commander-in-Chief i...That you will not support our Commander-in-Chief in a time of war speaks volumes about your "patriotism." Putting your party in front of country indeed. It is you teabaggers who wish our nation to fail, simply because you lost the election, like the petty, partisan extremists that you are.<br /><br />NONE of the blacklisted hollywood workers were EVER Soviet spies, or any such paranoid freak fantasy of yours. I get my history from reputable sources, not Ann Coulter "books". Your hero Joe McCarthy goes down in history as one of the most shameful figures in American history, and your meager attempt at historical revisionism is likewise shameful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-39939512160675928262009-11-14T12:21:52.074-08:002009-11-14T12:21:52.074-08:00note to self:
First name on my blacklist is Arlo...note to self: <br /><br />First name on my blacklist is Arlo (for being an obnoxious moron)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com