tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post5778225761412213665..comments2024-03-26T22:42:06.412-07:00Comments on TAG Blog: Are Dragons Detrimental to Box Office? Or Is It Something Else?Steve Huletthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-82890549115886029682010-04-06T07:34:26.230-07:002010-04-06T07:34:26.230-07:00Except thats a technical paper discussing techniqu...Except thats a technical paper discussing techniques on how to do 3D correctly so people wont get eye strain, not a report about how stereoscopic movies causes eye strain for most viewers.<br /><br />I did a "simple google search" as well, and have found NOTHING about the headaches and eye strain most people "apparently" get from stereoscopic films.Short Busnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-76377485917143946262010-04-03T08:45:49.251-07:002010-04-03T08:45:49.251-07:00since everyone else was too lazy to do a simple go...since everyone else was too lazy to do a simple google search... <br /><br />Here is a paper from siggraph that should help explain the 3d eye strain problem that people have. <br /><br />http://www.siggraph.org/publications/newsletter/volume/stereoscopic-3d-film-and-animationgetting-it-right<br /><br /><br />vAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-81664799511954058142010-04-01T10:50:19.518-07:002010-04-01T10:50:19.518-07:00Um, Steve, is it really so hard to monitor the com...<b>Um, Steve, is it really so hard to monitor the comments & delete remarks from puerile posters who think stupid personal insults are worth posting on every thread?</b><br /><br />Yes, can we please start by removing all posts that ask Steve to moderate posts they disagree with?<br /><br />Hey, if that poster would either post a link, or just admit they are making up facts out of thin air, maybe I wouldnt call them Short Bus (which, you gotta admit, in the world of insults, Short Bus is definitely the cutest)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-21345944542469706262010-04-01T10:19:28.047-07:002010-04-01T10:19:28.047-07:00Wow, what total BS.
I have terrible vision and g...Wow, what total BS. <br />I have terrible vision and get migraines easily but 3D films have zero effect on me. Nor has anyone I know-and I know a lot of moveigoers-ever got a headache from 3D. Also, I saw Dragon at a run of the mill theater and the image was *bright* as far as I was concerned. <br /><br /> Quit beating that horse, haters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-67782788143616670422010-04-01T10:16:54.777-07:002010-04-01T10:16:54.777-07:00Um, Steve, is it really so hard to monitor the com...Um, Steve, is it really so hard to monitor the comments & delete remarks from puerile posters who think stupid personal insults are worth posting on every thread?<br /><br />PLEASE.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-64518021990688828632010-04-01T07:45:37.638-07:002010-04-01T07:45:37.638-07:00You still didnt provide a link, Short Bus.You still didnt provide a link, Short Bus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-61788772944268174252010-03-31T21:19:58.041-07:002010-03-31T21:19:58.041-07:00THankfully, it's a fad, and will be gone in a ...THankfully, it's a fad, and will be gone in a year or so.<br /><br />Science Proves 3-D Movies Hurt Your Brain<br />We knew it: 3-D films are trying to kill you with migraines and crappy vision. A new study proves the relationship between 3-D and headaches. But will this stop Hollywood's slate of 32 (and counting) upcoming 3-D films?<br /><br />A study at the University of California Berkeley found that 3-D movies can cause eyestrain along with headaches. Apparently, 3-D doesn't allow our eyes to "follow the rules" because we're busy focusing on things both far and near at the same time, hence the headaches and blurred vision. Professor Martin Banks explained this to VOA Health.<br /><br />"You're taking that normal relationship which has been coupled in the brain for years and you're changing it. And what we showed is that can cause fatigue."<br />Not only that, 3-D is worse for your children and the youth of tomorrow, because younger viewers are far more susceptible to the ill effects of 3-D:Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-85015391776061666052010-03-31T15:16:59.633-07:002010-03-31T15:16:59.633-07:00*everyone I knew**everyone I knew*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-1312045736193400232010-03-31T13:48:40.394-07:002010-03-31T13:48:40.394-07:00Okay. Great. Ive talked to everyone who saw Drago...Okay. Great. Ive talked to everyone who saw Dragons this wekeend and no one complained of eye strain.<br /><br />Care to provide that link where "most" people complain of eye strain, or are you going to keep claiming incidental, individual, personal examples as "most?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-3312002122942836232010-03-31T13:46:11.256-07:002010-03-31T13:46:11.256-07:00Two adult IMAX 3D movie tickets -- $38.
Two child...Two adult IMAX 3D movie tickets -- $38.<br /><br />Two children tickets -- $32<br /><br />A tub of popcorn -- $7.50<br /><br />Two medium drinks -- $9<br /><br />Staying home and finding a better way to spend $86.50 -- Priceless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-47579309124119867062010-03-31T13:37:17.345-07:002010-03-31T13:37:17.345-07:00Little jeffrey katzemburg likes them because he al...Little jeffrey katzemburg likes them because he always gets in for kids prices.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-15644076592266244012010-03-31T13:36:14.983-07:002010-03-31T13:36:14.983-07:00"Do you have a link to back this up? Ive neve..."Do you have a link to back this up? Ive never heard of this, and if its most people, I think I would have by now..."<br /><br />Talk to most people who try and watch 3D movies. Remember, 3D movies are 1/3 less bright than REAL movies. Hence the eye strain. Just a simple fact.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-84040287694714141112010-03-31T12:49:51.842-07:002010-03-31T12:49:51.842-07:00many people have complained that 3D is straining f...many people have complained that 3D is straining for them. I'm sure it depends on what vision strains you may already have.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-13621222718774360502010-03-31T08:20:13.009-07:002010-03-31T08:20:13.009-07:00headache from eye strain 3D gives most people?
Do...<b>headache from eye strain 3D gives most people?</b><br /><br />Do you have a link to back this up? Ive never heard of this, and if its most people, I think I would have by now...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-68458246293648635732010-03-31T07:42:47.111-07:002010-03-31T07:42:47.111-07:00"Why would anyone pay MORE for "3D?"...<i>"Why would anyone pay MORE for "3D?"</i><br /><br />Because most sheeple do what they are told and don't have an original thought in their head. <br /><br /> It must be better it's got an extra D in it, duh , right George? George, take me to see da movie wit da cute wittle bunnies ... in 3D , will ya , George, huh, will ya? I got to see 'dose bunnies in 3D.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-59149496712672309172010-03-30T20:10:33.412-07:002010-03-30T20:10:33.412-07:00Why would anyone pay MORE for "3D?" Mos...Why would anyone pay MORE for "3D?" Most of the upcoming 3D films weren't filmed in Stereo (Alice, Titans). And theaters won't give you a discount if you bring your own glasses.<br /><br />Why would anyone pay MORE for the headache from eye strain 3D gives most people?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-3059189720821165152010-03-30T17:17:43.726-07:002010-03-30T17:17:43.726-07:00quote:
The theaters increased 3d ticket prices li...quote:<br /><br /><b>The theaters increased 3d ticket prices literally days before Dragon came out.<br />http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118016878.html?categoryid=1236&cs=1</b><br /><br />It kind of sounds like the theater owners were firing off their own cannons in this pissing match (to mix a metaphor or two):<br /><br />http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/17/business/la-fi-ct-dragons18-2010mar18<br /><br /><i> Paramount Pictures is telling theaters that if they don't show the upcoming DreamWorks-produced "Dragon," on a 3-D screen, then it will withhold from the theater a 2-D version of the movie to play instead, according to four theater industry executives, who asked not to be identified for fear of reprisal. Many multiplexes only have a single 3-D screen, so not having a conventional version of the highly anticipated DreamWorks family film to play on their other screens would severely affect ticket sales.<br /><br />"The message is: If you have one 3-D screen available and you don't play ["Dragon"], they're not going to give you the version in 2-D," one California theater operator said. "It's an underhanded threat."</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-4270434192468908752010-03-30T13:36:47.458-07:002010-03-30T13:36:47.458-07:00Not only that, but the doomsaying immediately star...Not only that, but the doomsaying immediately starts on Friday's numbers, which is inaccurate for a kids' animated film. (Given that there aren't as many crowds for a 9pm showing.)<br />Family movies make up for lost time with crowds for the Sat. afternoon show and final numbers by the end results--But the first headlines to hit are "Why didn't it make as much as we THOUGHT it would?"<br /><br />(There's a story about how the press reacted to "Cars"'s second-week numbers, that would be amusing if it were funny.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-66243274195057507382010-03-30T12:56:44.912-07:002010-03-30T12:56:44.912-07:00Everyone is writing this movie off because it didn...Everyone is writing this movie off because it didn't make insane numbers, and we haven't even seen the second weekends results. Slash and burn mentality of hollywood is so sickening. Lots of good films have suffered this fate, Frog is a recent one and everyone remembers Iron Giant's run.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-10342659258470022862010-03-30T11:36:51.951-07:002010-03-30T11:36:51.951-07:00Here we go again with all the crazy theories on wh...Here we go again with all the crazy theories on why a movie didn't do well. It was good, it wasn't good, it's the title, it's the price of tickets, it's because people don't expect much from dreamworks, <br /><br />I know the real reason, and I shall tell you...<br />it's because of the curse of the animation pantaloon, these have been passed down between animation studio powerhouses for generations, each time they achieve the animation pantaloon the curse shall take over the studio. Beware all animators of the Animation Pantaloon and the curse it shall hold over you and your studios.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-11231719996301673612010-03-30T10:58:28.392-07:002010-03-30T10:58:28.392-07:00The movie I would kill to see:
"The Dragon Pr...<b>The movie I would kill to see:<br />"The Dragon Princess"</b><br /><br />(Actually, there IS a book by that title from the same author as "The Frog Princess", and...it's even worse than <i>that</i> original book.<br />Although if Disney throws just as much of it away in the script, it might have a chance.) :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-18984008092731105332010-03-30T10:52:30.785-07:002010-03-30T10:52:30.785-07:00You can choose you own questions. But the ones tha...<i>You can choose you own questions. But the ones that play in my head on an endless loop are these:<br />Why did Alvin and the Chipmunks: the Squeakquel open with $48.9 million?<br />Why did How to Train Your Dragon earn $43.7 million?</i><br /><br />Because. Alvin. Came. Out. At. Freakin'. <b>CHRISTMAS!</b> That's why Fox put it there.<br />Steve, I know you want to use an Alvin punchline as Default Snark every time PaTF or Dragons doesn't make money, but can we <i>please</i> get past this point to recognize it? It would open up more of the discussions.<br /><br />And at least feel better that Alvin 3-D, for some odd reasons of competition, moved itself OUT of Fox's jealously coveted Christmas slot into the week-before slot--probably assuming it worked for Avatar and Tron--not realizing that sci-fi epics can do that but family films can't...They'll be sor-ree! :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-76462316466293573032010-03-30T10:47:23.199-07:002010-03-30T10:47:23.199-07:00I think it's the "How to Train" part...I think it's the <i>"How to Train"</i> part of the title that kept folks away from the movie. It implies some effort on their part and they don't go to movies to expend any effort. <i>"How to Install Your Furnace Filter"</i> would not be a box office smash. Neither would <i>"How to Train Your Monsters to Fight Aliens"</i> or <i>"How to Turn Your Princess into a Frog"</i>. It also sounds a bit prepubescent. A simple Pixar-like one word title would have sufficed, like <i>"Toothless"</i>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-68131929500960918202010-03-30T10:44:08.368-07:002010-03-30T10:44:08.368-07:00Oh, good lord:
Was anyone around here reading thes...Oh, good <b>lord</b>:<br />Was anyone around here reading these SAME headlines back during the summers of '02-'03, when third-party animateds were dropping like flies, and LA Times columnists were coming up with cockamamie sociological "reasons" that had absolutely nothing to do with the movie?<br />(One of the "reasons" for Sinbad's flop--also a DW film--was instrumental in Eisner shutting down the 2-D studios, so some of us survivors are still a little tetchy.)<br /><br />Any money Dragons "didn't make", unquote--which as warned earlier, has a lot to do with expectations--didn't have to do with dragons (in fact, that was what the kid audience seeme to liked best). It had a LOT to do with promotion, marketing, just how much money a movie <i>can</i> make in March, and whether anyone, in fact, really HAD been waiting to see it: It's just possible that maybe Joe Public does notice when DW's name is on a movie and <i>weren't</i>, and like MvA, are going to have to be stubbornly convinced in the second week by good reviews and friends' word-of-mouth.<br /><br />(And hate to be one of the Froggy defenders saying "We told you so", but how does it feel now to have to <i>defend</i> an innocent movie against industry superstition, prejudice and public hysteria for reasons beyond its control?) ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-20812461966482606892010-03-30T10:35:09.099-07:002010-03-30T10:35:09.099-07:00"I wonder if this will alter anyones opinions..."I wonder if this will alter anyones opinions about princess movies or movies directed at girls not performing up to expectation. It seems the same thing can happen with movies directed at boys."<br /><br />How to Train Your Dragon is going to make twice as much as Princess and the Frog did.Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033520437729077065noreply@blogger.com