tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post6038588165080829725..comments2024-03-29T02:18:35.303-07:00Comments on TAG Blog: Websites don’t return phone calls, eitherSteve Huletthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-12206663179406015052011-06-03T15:19:49.802-07:002011-06-03T15:19:49.802-07:00Well, as a recent grad (and thankfully hire), I ca...Well, as a recent grad (and thankfully hire), I can say I'm a bit mixed with regards to how recruiters do things. I would like to think that communication between possible applicants once they reach a certain stage (let's say after they get an interview, possibly two), should be a little bit more of a two way street. A few studios interviewed me, told me I did well, and that I'd hear back about the position within X timeframe. Reasonable and not a locked in date for sure. However, when that timeframe came and went, I emailed them only TWICE, politely asking if there was any news, good or bad. I sent these emails days apart, and then finally left a phone message. Still the line seemed completely dead. I assumed I didn't get the job. I had to do it for my own mental health. I couldn't count on having an offer from them so I moved on, I have loans to payoff :)<br /><br />Lo and behold the same studio calls after I've already accepted a position somewhere else. One month to the day after they told me I'd hear back, without ever having told me to hang on. I respectfully told them I wasn't available, and hoped that perhaps down the road we may cross paths again, but I was kinda annoyed. <br /><br />Yes, this industry is competitive, but there's a certain human courtesy that I think needs to be shown to applicants that studios are actually considering for a job...don't leave them hanging with no answers (even if the answer is, hang tight). Besides, even bad news is still news. People have decisions to make and keeping everyone informed within reason would help everyone. Studios and applicants included.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-3013096615412814852011-05-24T10:46:01.439-07:002011-05-24T10:46:01.439-07:00What is appropriate when interviews are involved?
...<b>What is appropriate when interviews are involved?</b><br /><br />Another experienced animator here with VERY mixed treatment regarding interviews. My overall assessment is that if I, as an animator, did my job as poorly as many recruiters and hiring managers, I would not have a career. It's stunning how incompetent some of these people are, and how long they last despite their incompetence, and how they tend to show up at another studio once they finally get canned from their original studio.<br /><br />That said, I've also had some marvelous and very professional interactions with many recruiters. Some are real gems, and do a difficult job well. But they seem to be in the minority.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-70239055710218165212011-05-23T08:30:51.935-07:002011-05-23T08:30:51.935-07:00So, my theory has been that with computer animatio...So, my theory has been that with computer animation being king, there would be fewer and fewer people with physical drawing skills coming up through school and those of us with traditional skills would be a rare breed that would have an easier job getting into the studios in those few niches that require them (storyboard, layout, design). But that doesn't seem to be the case, at least not yet. If anything, competition for those few jobs seems steeper than ever. Can anyone comment on this?Meredithhttp://www.meredithrandazzo.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-10886534827902029852011-05-20T11:15:10.810-07:002011-05-20T11:15:10.810-07:00What is appropriate when interviews are involved?
...What is appropriate when interviews are involved?<br /><br />I've had interviews, but did not get any follow up from the company. Just left hanging with no response. Not even a no thank you.<br /><br />I've been asked about by availability for interviews, and said I was open. Then again, no response.<br /><br />Who oversees the recruiters to see if they are leaving qualified applicants with a good feeling about the company?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-69115972600406231962011-05-19T20:53:19.722-07:002011-05-19T20:53:19.722-07:00I actually go a rejection letter from a studio I n...I actually go a rejection letter from a studio I never applied to - talk about preemptive strike!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-40122061510056127502011-05-19T17:32:55.793-07:002011-05-19T17:32:55.793-07:00So beyond quietly slinking away with your portfoli...<i>So beyond quietly slinking away with your portfolio, are there ANY reasonable steps to getting some attention??</i><br /><br />Unfortunately no, not from a front office or a studio, and 99% of the time not from an individual either. It stinks but that's reality. The best thing anyone can do to get noticed is network-meet people in the business and put your work on your blog. <br /><br />Real jobs usually don't come from portfolio drop-offs to places and people you have no history with-or even ones you do have a history with. Not saying not to do it at all, but if there's no reply or the answer is no, it's no. It's just too crowded a field. <br /><br />I had a portfolio at DisneyToons where it was ignored, just sat there for a few weeks after dropping it off(they were accepting them at the time). Then someone called me about a position on a project-a person I'd worked with in the past. I assumed they had seen my book. I was offered a job on the phone and accepted it. <br /><br /> I got a call weeks later from Recruitment at Disney: "Sorry, but we aren't interested. Please come pick up your portfolio". I was already working at the studio, unbeknownst to them! By the way, they were pretty dismissive/rude about it too.<br /><br /> <i>That</i> time the laugh was on them. But this is the way it goes. The people who say "no" are going to keep saying it. You have to have luck and connections to get a yes, and more than half the time it's when you aren't even looking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-48317055472224142382011-05-19T17:03:50.802-07:002011-05-19T17:03:50.802-07:00Think of it like calling up someone for a date: I...Think of it like calling up someone for a date: If you leave a message and they call you back = success. If they don't call you back and you keep calling and calling = You blew it.JavaJunkienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-13525156487585821532011-05-19T16:01:48.918-07:002011-05-19T16:01:48.918-07:00Evil management drone here (just being up front so...Evil management drone here (just being up front so you that are more render can avert your eyes)to say that I have a story board artist that calls me once o month like clock work to ask me if I am looking for story board artists. This is after I have told him (every time) that, "No, we do not have a story board department we are supplied boards by our client)<br /><br />Arrghhh...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-21548883113127066672011-05-19T15:36:07.950-07:002011-05-19T15:36:07.950-07:00So beyond quietly slinking away with your portfoli...So beyond quietly slinking away with your portfolio, are there ANY reasonable steps to getting some attention?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-35530084377503789592011-05-18T17:56:51.832-07:002011-05-18T17:56:51.832-07:00I know Alice Smith, and you sir, are no Alice Smit...I know Alice Smith, and you sir, are no Alice Smith!C.M.B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08225943050161379371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-15671178536190886182011-05-18T13:44:08.232-07:002011-05-18T13:44:08.232-07:00Back in the day... there was once an editor who ke...Back in the day... there was once an editor who kept phoning the studio begging to be interviewed for a job. Then she kept calling demanding to speak to the head guy about why he didn't call her back. Then she called about why she wasn't given a job! Then she showed up one day at the studio making a big scene at reception demanding to see the hiring guy. So she got dumped on a PA (me) to give her a tour of the studio & subtly head her out the door after which we never saw her again. <br /><br />The reason? She only wanted to work in live action & refused to work in animation even though she was demanding employment from an animation studio!<br /><br />yeah. fun times.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-73529100024117699022011-05-18T11:43:45.934-07:002011-05-18T11:43:45.934-07:00HA!
Good one Jeff.
I would trust Jeff's judg...HA! <br />Good one Jeff. <br />I would trust Jeff's judgement on this one.<br />He's been around for quite a while.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-25465771819669023962011-05-18T09:48:10.599-07:002011-05-18T09:48:10.599-07:00No, you don't. Trust me.No, you don't. Trust me.Jeff Massiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01025023288241410877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-59629390790147694932011-05-18T09:36:37.440-07:002011-05-18T09:36:37.440-07:00I want to meet Alice Smith.I want to meet Alice Smith.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com