tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post6163866002347190509..comments2024-03-29T02:18:35.303-07:00Comments on TAG Blog: Green Froggy WatchSteve Huletthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-71227348743146387342010-02-14T18:36:14.241-08:002010-02-14T18:36:14.241-08:00If you want to lose your job (and I sense some her...If you want to lose your job (and I sense some here do, and they're welcome to), think it's an interesting experiment to see whether anyone can lose their job for protesting that a film seemed to be a bit more -popular- than the boardroom decreed it to be--<br /><br />They can throw numbers at you if you claim that PATF got a tough break at the worst season of the year, and what's the worst they can do if you ask for a little proof on, okay, just who exactly SAID the audience problem was with princesses? (Did anyone? I can't recall...)<br />What could happen?: "We won't have troublemakers saying our films were good, clean out your desk!"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-31697647296582928392010-02-14T17:00:43.986-08:002010-02-14T17:00:43.986-08:00There are worse things than losing your Disney job...There are worse things than losing your Disney job...like keeping your Disney job.<br /><br />The happiest day I ever had was the day I left and never looked back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-56766350891203405642010-02-14T11:37:49.378-08:002010-02-14T11:37:49.378-08:00I think the problem is that people *have* tried, a...I think the problem is that people *have* tried, and were never heard from again. It's clear who's calling the shots, and I don't blame anyone for not going on a kamikaze run.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02465912785343019825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-42220044230558357112010-02-14T11:27:54.226-08:002010-02-14T11:27:54.226-08:00You wont know unless you try.You wont know unless you try.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-51978509336925597912010-02-12T18:14:25.898-08:002010-02-12T18:14:25.898-08:00Looks like Blue Sky Disney was right about the &qu...Looks like Blue Sky Disney was right about the "Tangled" title. I was hoping they were wrong. Sigh, crappy name.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-2927753576441318632010-02-12T07:51:26.082-08:002010-02-12T07:51:26.082-08:00^ Yeah, I know. It's looking like JL views on...^ Yeah, I know. It's looking like JL views only his main group of guys as family (Stanton, Docter, Bird, Unkrich), and everybody else can be replaced; whereas Katzenberg has really gone out of his way to treat his employees well and has welcomed the Disney outcasts with open arms.<br /><br />Seems as time passed, Katzenberg has humbled himself enough to trust his animators, while Lasseter has become elitist.<br /><br />And this is all coming from someone who thought Lasseter going to Disney was the greatest thing since sliced bread. I admit now that I was wrong to be as excited as I was.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-31687775185820084752010-02-12T07:12:03.578-08:002010-02-12T07:12:03.578-08:00The truth seesm to be that despite JK and JL's...The truth seesm to be that despite JK and JL's different backgrounds Jeffrey views his DW artists as family and valuable and John see his Disney artists (and many at Pixar) as cannon fodder - use them till they drop and then replace them when they do. <br /><br />Who would've thought this was possible, eh?yahwehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-15203012263006045372010-02-12T06:49:18.939-08:002010-02-12T06:49:18.939-08:00Currently safely in production at Disney and Pixar...Currently safely in production at Disney and Pixar are Rapunzel, The Bear and the Bow..... Sounds like the others are in trouble and could be shelved like the others.<br /><br />No wonder they're leaving for Dreamworks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-55200195619652072842010-02-11T22:55:58.296-08:002010-02-11T22:55:58.296-08:00They're killing their big green golden goose, ...<i>They're killing their big green golden goose, they don't have any proven franchises to replace it, the Oscar nominations they've been trying to repeat have been fewer and fewer, and if they're expecting Chris Sanders to direct every single one of their movies from now on, that..." blah blah...usual BS negativity blah....</i><br /><br /> Currently in production at Dreamworks are the Panda and Madagascar sequels(both of which are proven franchises), Puss in Boots and the ORIGINAL Dragon, MegaMind, Crood, Guardians and more that haven't been announced yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-58755424083052071092010-02-11T20:21:07.420-08:002010-02-11T20:21:07.420-08:00Hmmm...let me guess...a Pixie...?Hmmm...let me guess...a Pixie...?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-59466894619379835552010-02-11T18:43:41.508-08:002010-02-11T18:43:41.508-08:003 movies coming out this year, 2 next year. They&#...<i>3 movies coming out this year, 2 next year. They're supposed to be averaging 5 movies per two years.<br />That's how.</i><br /><br />Any -good- ones? That might help their longterm grosses a bit more effectively.<br />They're killing their big green golden goose, they don't have any proven franchises to replace it, the Oscar nominations they've been trying to repeat have been fewer and fewer, and if they're expecting Chris Sanders to direct every single one of their movies from now on, that...remains to be seen.<br /><br />Steady employment on a sinking ship isn't a better prospect than an unsteady one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-30585407580020060812010-02-11T17:49:11.349-08:002010-02-11T17:49:11.349-08:00One thing I wonder is how much patience Iger has w...One thing I wonder is how much patience Iger has with Lasseter....<br /><br />...and what happens when he loses patience?<br /><br />Does Lasseter go crawling back to Pixar and serve as a good little soldier for the Walt Disney company?<br /><br />Does he leave and form his own studio, taking along with him a bunch of strong talent from Pixar?<br /><br />Should be interesting to see. I honestly don't see Disney recovering from this unless they fix their hiring practices. They'll keep hemorrhaging talent until Lasseter learns a thing or two from Katzenberg.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-66314263264747529392010-02-11T16:42:01.714-08:002010-02-11T16:42:01.714-08:00"Gee, guess they'll have to start learnin...<i>"Gee, guess they'll have to start learning how to draw The One Dreamworks Expression</i>"<br /><br />...which is One More Expression than <b>you</b> can draw, chumley.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-35079140684331062132010-02-11T16:26:48.610-08:002010-02-11T16:26:48.610-08:00Sure, KOTE is going to be a new Bolt...
cliche tre...Sure, KOTE is going to be a new Bolt...<br />cliche treatment of the story, bland character designs... the perfect nanny for kids.Derricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-52649747126550217892010-02-11T15:40:24.181-08:002010-02-11T15:40:24.181-08:00That's really overstating things. There's ...<i>That's really overstating things. There's no exodus.</i><br /><br />There's no full exodus because DreamWorks doesn't have room to hire everyone. But the fact remains that Disney has tossed out some of its top talent, and it's driven away some of its top talent, and its laid off some of its emerging talent. Couple that with the clear pattern that they don't know what kind of movies to make, and the utter incompetence of their development process, and it's not a bright future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-62778855738352882372010-02-11T14:21:46.284-08:002010-02-11T14:21:46.284-08:00Quality only goes down if you're overworking y...Quality only goes down if you're overworking your employees, if they're stressed.<br /><br />How do you not overwork/stress out your employees? You hire more people to help out.<br /><br />People are still going to their movies so they're making money. I wouldn't worry about their quality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-10398898857820225232010-02-11T14:12:22.140-08:002010-02-11T14:12:22.140-08:00That's too much. Quality will go down the fast...That's too much. Quality will go down the faster they try and churn out movies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-49620118736031783962010-02-11T14:08:41.269-08:002010-02-11T14:08:41.269-08:00^ 3 movies coming out this year, 2 next year. The...^ 3 movies coming out this year, 2 next year. They're supposed to be averaging 5 movies per two years.<br /><br />That's how.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-80520131071523066532010-02-11T13:51:11.018-08:002010-02-11T13:51:11.018-08:00Big layoffs coming for Dreamworks I fear. How can...Big layoffs coming for Dreamworks I fear. How can they just keep hiring and hiring and hiring?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-26376451508787890602010-02-11T13:23:38.987-08:002010-02-11T13:23:38.987-08:00I guess it sounds like Lasseter/Catmull is trying ...I guess it sounds like Lasseter/Catmull is trying to incorporate the Pixar slave-hours over at Disney, except that Disney Animation is sure as heck not Pixar, so less incentive to actually want to pull the slave-hours they need.<br /><br />I hate to put that on Catmull/Lasseter - but this is happening on their watch now (they've had time to implement their culture or what have you for a couple of years now). Maybe they don't care if they lose talent because they think people will want to come work for Disney regardless?<br /><br />In any case, kudos to Dreamworks on keeping animators happy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-35308468813989343102010-02-11T13:11:44.450-08:002010-02-11T13:11:44.450-08:00Anon 8:27 -
Well said. Marketing has always seem...Anon 8:27 - <br /><br />Well said. Marketing has always seemed like a driving force but it seems like Hollywood is now completely ass-backwards. You pick a franchise, set a release date, and then decide what kind of movie you're going to make. You then hire a gajillion people to work 80hrs a week so you can make your release date and they slap together whatever they can, and then you fire everyone. What?<br /><br />As to why people would leave for DWA, it certainly seems like the much more stable place to work these days. That's nothing to sneeze at.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02465912785343019825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-20792763874074692522010-02-11T12:57:48.327-08:002010-02-11T12:57:48.327-08:00"Nothing is ever "dead." Films are ..."Nothing is ever "dead." Films are either released, or unreleased."<br /><br />Okay, but you're saying "in development" isn't the same as "actively being worked on", correct?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-62287093316194328182010-02-11T12:54:23.340-08:002010-02-11T12:54:23.340-08:00Do you know something nobody else knows, or are yo...<i>Do you know something nobody else knows, or are you just very behind?</i><br /><br />Nothing is ever "dead." Films are either released, or unreleased.<br /><br />KOTE is in development. And development is development.<br /><br />At one point, Toy Story 3 was in development at Circle 7, then it wasnt. Now it's being released. Just sayin'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-14371524696408358072010-02-11T12:51:53.504-08:002010-02-11T12:51:53.504-08:00I heard that Dreamworks hangs onto animation emplo...I heard that Dreamworks hangs onto animation employees between projects, while Disney does not.<br /><br />If true, that could make Dreamworks a more attractive place to work than Disney.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-31662103512788883702010-02-11T12:00:23.814-08:002010-02-11T12:00:23.814-08:00Why are people leaving Disney left and right?
Tha...<i>Why are people leaving Disney left and right?</i><br /><br />That's <i>really</i> overstating things. There's no exodus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com