tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post9194536995158087763..comments2024-03-26T22:42:06.412-07:00Comments on TAG Blog: Roy E. Disney, 1930-2009Steve Huletthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-57201084475649410302009-12-21T08:26:59.415-08:002009-12-21T08:26:59.415-08:00"Give em time to get stuff going again. I kno..."Give em time to get stuff going again. I know its fun to hate Disney, but give them a chance. Big ships are hard to turn."<br /><br />I think you misunderstand our tone -- we don't hate Disney (not as much as many of the employees who are treated like shit do, at least). We hate the decisions that are made there and want Disney to succeed, but I have serious doubts about that at this point. Hopes were so high when Lasseter was put in charge....so far none have been realized.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-90411965689007017162009-12-21T08:23:18.795-08:002009-12-21T08:23:18.795-08:00You can bet the next 2D will be an even cheaper ma...You can bet the next 2D will be an even cheaper made Princess film. Since they shelved Elves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-32407905875853215912009-12-20T19:12:34.887-08:002009-12-20T19:12:34.887-08:002D isnt going anywhere. Pooh is next, then anothe...2D isnt going anywhere. Pooh is next, then another film (cant say what, cuz Im not allowed)<br /><br />Give em time to get stuff going again. I know its fun to hate Disney, but give them a chance. Big ships are hard to turn.<br /><br />Rapunzel looks good. I thought Bolt was good (cue "Bolt sucks" from some asshole). Its going the right direction...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-81889902458711908992009-12-20T17:30:23.220-08:002009-12-20T17:30:23.220-08:00Actually it remains to be seen if removing Eisner ...Actually it remains to be seen if removing Eisner and replacing him with Lasseter, et al will make any difference whatsoever. So far nhothing...other than to make Pixar a permanent part of Disney and to MAYBE temporarily return 2D to the screen. If Frog doens't do better than Lasseter will have the unfortunate job of telling everyone 2D is going to go bye-bye again.<br /><br />His greatest acheivement THAT ACTAUALLY BORE FRUIT was the replacement of Ron Miller with Eisner, Wells and Katzenberg.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-39676441573832394552009-12-20T12:27:44.272-08:002009-12-20T12:27:44.272-08:00I'm truly saddened by news of his passing.
...I'm truly saddened by news of his passing. <br /><br />The campaign he ran to oust Eisner out of Disney was one of his greatest achievements and I'm glad to know he lived to see Pixar as part of the Disney family.<br /><br />Hats off to restoring a little magic back to the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-59100648443462269142009-12-19T11:39:07.805-08:002009-12-19T11:39:07.805-08:00Roy was a great advocate within the Disney studio ...Roy was a great advocate within the Disney studio for animation. He could've chosen to ride through life on the good fortune of his birth - but he didn't. His corporate battles are well-known, but maybe not so well-known, are his kindnesses to individual animators. He understood the animation process and loved being around it. He encouraged ideas and was a wonderful audience for a pitch. He wasn't beholden to whatever politics were in play at the studio, and used his clout to promote talent when he saw it.<br /><br /><br />Roy wasn't perfect human being (who is?) But he lived his life joyfully and passionately and generously.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-3721003971910608302009-12-17T14:14:50.007-08:002009-12-17T14:14:50.007-08:00Fox actually set up the Bluth Phoenix Studios firs...Fox actually set up the Bluth Phoenix Studios first, in a bid to replicate <i>Aladdin, Lion King</i> grosses. That didn't pan out.<br /><br />Blue Sky was an acquisition studio that started making a smallish film called <i>Ice Age.</i><br /><br />Before <i>IA</i> was completed and released (but in production), Fox made an effort to unload the studio, deciding that it didn't want to be in the animation bizness.<br /><br />(I get this from a former Fox exec.)<br /><br />Then <i>Ice Age</i> came out and made a fortune, and Fox reversed course.Steve Huletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-13837535113173124532009-12-17T12:27:42.638-08:002009-12-17T12:27:42.638-08:00I think what he was implying is that because of DW...I think what he was implying is that because of DW's success Fox took a chance when they might not have if Pixar was the only one being successful in theaters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-10252539125213371602009-12-17T10:50:09.787-08:002009-12-17T10:50:09.787-08:00How did DW have a hand in making Blue Sky?How did DW have a hand in making Blue Sky?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-65332663016602304402009-12-17T09:58:05.875-08:002009-12-17T09:58:05.875-08:00No question whatsoever and he accidentally made an...No question whatsoever and he accidentally made animation a better place for all those who work in it - unless you work ironicly enough at Disney. I doubt his purpose in ousting JK was to create other studios and bidding wars for talent. AND he certainly had not intention of destroying Disney animation, but that is also his legacy after he and Eisner removed JK because of their egos.<br />Disney animation would very well be a much better place today if he had pushed for JK to take Wells' position.<br />Of course, animation in general might not be doing as well. Though I doubt he wants to be known for creating a studio like DW which, in a way, begat Blue Sky (at least).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-75044382207977893912009-12-17T09:47:34.717-08:002009-12-17T09:47:34.717-08:00But Nikki misses a larger point.
Roy kicked off t...But Nikki misses a larger point.<br /><br />Roy kicked off the rebirth at Disney in 1984-85 by bringing in Eisner and Katzenberg.<br /><br />Yes, he had a large hand in Katzenberg -- whom he disliked -- leaving the lot in 1994 when Eisner wanted to get rid of him. <br /><br />But Katzenberg's firing in '94 is the reason that DreamWorks Animation exists ... and thrives ... today. Roy helped push Katzenberg out.<br /><br />Whether it was all purposeful on Roy's part or not is beside the point. The current animation boom can largely be attributed to the gears Roy set spinning in 1984 and 1994. Do you think there's really any question about that?<br /><br />I don't.Steve Huletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05537689111433326847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-82912858583723505882009-12-17T07:02:10.097-08:002009-12-17T07:02:10.097-08:00Before we get too gushy about ol' Roy we might...Before we get too gushy about ol' Roy we might want to keep in perspective what he did good and what he did that was bad. While he was the one initially responsible for bringing Disney back from the dead by bringing in Eisner, Wells and Katzenberg (Katzenberg was ultimately responsible for the 'real' renaissance) Roy was also resposnible for destroying what he had set in motion initially.<br />Nikki Finke puts it into perspective...<br />"It was Roy who was the first at the company to want to show Jeffrey Katzenberg the door. Roy was titularly the head of Disney animation, but everyone knew it was Katzenberg who did all the work. At the same time, Eisner heaped fuel onto the fire by constantly flattering Roy that he, Walt’s nephew, more than Jeffrey, “had a keener sense of what a Disney movie ought to be than any of the rest of us,” as Eisner postured in his autobiography. Roy felt ignored by Katzenberg, and his complaints to Eisner reached a crescendo after Frank Wells’ accidental death in 1994: Not only would Katzenberg not be promoted into Wells’ job, but for all Roy cared, Jeffrey could exit the company now that Joe Roth was on the lot. To this day, conventional wisdom has it that Eisner might never have had the guts to dare get rid of Katzenberg, and all that implied, if Roy had not been behind it. Even after Katzenberg resigned, Roy re-cut a “making of” documentary on The Lion King, removing all but a few frames of Katzenberg’s fingerprints on the hit project."<br /><br />And while his second attempot at fixing things by getting rid of Eisner is in theory good it's still not clear if it will result in success.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-5773244438023522962009-12-16T15:29:56.011-08:002009-12-16T15:29:56.011-08:00A gallant knight of the sad, sad Magic Kingdom kno...A gallant knight of the sad, sad Magic Kingdom known as the "Disney Company" (Walt's name has apparently been dropped)is no more. He fought hard to bring back the creativity and legacy of the company his uncle worked so hard to build. Now that company seems more interested in buying characters instead of creating them and allowing them to infest Walt's kingdoms. I'll never forget the near-nausea I felt when I saw Kermit the Frog promoting the parks instead of Mickey.<br /><br />Yes, the White Knight is gone. Now the knaves are free to fully take over.<br /><br />Tragic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-9816499382800832462009-12-16T15:00:08.565-08:002009-12-16T15:00:08.565-08:00You kept your promises. Thanks, Roy.You kept your promises. Thanks, Roy.Floyd Normanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08635960964922892254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-20961988078750325132009-12-16T14:00:35.181-08:002009-12-16T14:00:35.181-08:00Extremely, extremely sad to hear this...Extremely, extremely sad to hear this...Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02465912785343019825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-26444277972768505092009-12-16T12:29:52.475-08:002009-12-16T12:29:52.475-08:00Roy. Thank you for all you've given us. I foll...Roy. Thank you for all you've given us. I followed you through your "Disappointed" campaign, and applauded your return to Disney, and your revival of traditional animation. You will be missed.Matthew Scheuermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03559458021425395329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-89217003998111125092009-12-16T12:02:37.536-08:002009-12-16T12:02:37.536-08:00:-(:-(mark pudleinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11625936782072187091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22906998.post-19630140614782057502009-12-16T11:53:19.375-08:002009-12-16T11:53:19.375-08:00WHAT !!! SO SAD TO HEAR, HE WAS A GOOD MAN.WHAT !!! SO SAD TO HEAR, HE WAS A GOOD MAN.CHARLESnoreply@blogger.com