I spent a part of the afternoon in the Mouse's hat building, running up and down stairs ...
The Princess and the Frog's newer trailer is playing in the lobby hallway, and the Rapunzel story crew was upstairs having a followup meeting about the latest Rapunzel story reel unspooling.
"We had a good Lasseter screening. Picture is working well."
As I've mentioned before, rough animation on PandF wraps up in the next few weeks, and the cleanup crew will depart in late July or August. I'm informed many of the artists expect they won't be around much beyond the production's finish date.
The next hand-drawn project? From what I hear it's a bunch of months off ... at the earliest. And I don't think Disney management's in the habit of carrying artists between projects. (Rapunzel, of course, gets the c.g.i. treatment, even though the key promotional sentence is: "In the tradition of the great Disney fairy tales ...")
Meantime, story work continues full bore on King of the Elves.
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"And I don't think Disney management's in the habit of carrying artists between projects. "Does the company carrry managers between projects ? Well maybe they should start working harder . (how's their quota this week ? Uh-oh, hope they're not slacking off ... )
Maybe the Disney management could get back in the habit of managing their productions so that they overlap . Here's how it works (worked): Story development on the next movie(s) proceeds as production is happening on the present movie. As one production finishes up the crew rolls on to the next one. Animators roll off a film 3 or 4 months before the clean-up crew, so they have lead time to build up some inventory for the clean-up crew to dive into when they roll off the previous production on to the new production.
It worked. It can work again. It just takes some careful planning (managing) .
^ That's the way it is at CG studios.
Just that Princess is handdrawn and after Princess no one knows when is the next handdrawn project.
I love that "Overlap" thing. Sounds like it could work.
One problem, however. That would probably require management.
My opinion? Stop screwing around and make Rapunzel traditionally animated (Byron and Glen, for the win), and let the CG crew work on King of the Elves.
The lack of overlap doesn't surprise me. I'm sure somewhere, someone is waiting to see the BO numbers on PatF before they commit to a budget on the next hand drawn work.
Isn't Rapunzel supposed to aesthetically revolutionize CG animation? To hand draw it is to fall back to Princess' re-used 90's style.
At least let the Disney folks doing something that is not Pixar left-over or self-plagiarism.
I find it very hard to believe that a cg Rapunzel would be less expensive than a traditionally animated one.
Where did anyone say it would be less expensive?
Isn't Rapunzel supposed to aesthetically revolutionize CG animation?When I was there, it wasnt revolutionary per say. It just looked decently animated because of the people working on it. But theres no "revolutionary" tech being developed or anything, at least that I know of
When I was developing million dollar properties with some of the biggest names in town, we toyed with doing CG here in the states, but it was just too darned expensive! We found that the best talent is overseas, and cheaper too! With my experience in radio, like the Jeff Rense show, I knew about the global exchange rates that were a budget killer.
The investors I worked with were some of the best in the business, and they said that the best animation is done in Asia, where the workers enjoy the work, but don't let money get in the way. A good tip for everyone who loves animation.
While I agree the labor is cheaper in Asia, I must respectfully disagree, Greg B, where the best talent is. The best talent exists in the US, and the pay and working conditions are piss-poor in Asia.
Well these investors are the best in the business, and I'd listen to 'em! I've tried to get them to post here and other sites, but they always feel such negativity. They are big big animation fans, and they have a lot to offer the pros.
That overlap concept requires stories that are ready to move into production. We've already seen what happens when Disney sticks to a schedule instead of waiting for a story to be ready. Eventually Disney will have enough good directors working on stories that there won't be this overlap, but that time is not now.
"Well these investors are the best in the business"
No offense, but who gives a shit. If they really mattered, they'd be making something, and it sounds like they arent making anything, and are just "fans."
Myself, on the other hand, have animated many feature films and work side by side with "the best in the business"
Take your name-dropping nonsense somewhere else if you're going to waste everyones time
"When I was developing million dollar properties with some of the biggest names in town, we toyed with doing CG here in the states, but it was just too darned expensive! We found that the best talent is overseas"Greg B: What "million dollar properties" and what "biggest names in town" are you talking about , buddy? What have you EVER done in movies or animation ? Name one film or tv project . I don't believe you.
Where are your credits on IMDB, Greg ?
The investors I worked with were some of the best in the business, and they said that the best animation is done in Asia, where the workers enjoy the work, but don't let money get in the way. A good tip for everyone who loves animation.Of COURSE those "investors" would say the best animation was done overseas...how could they possibly line their own pockets as well if production was kept in the states?!
And the artists over there don't let money get in the way?! Holy crap, Greg, do you have something against a US animator trying to keep a living wage?! Have you bothered to keep up with the overtime/free work abuses that go on here all the time...that the ARTISTS let the studios get away with for NO return? Is sleeping under an animation desk and not showering for days "living" or "existing"?
Your "investors" must be buddies with the banking system that helped get the US into the economic mess it's currently in.
About Rapunzel... I hope for a "real" painterly look, and not so computer generated like Bolt.
Congratulations.. I can`t wait!
"No offense, but who gives a shit. If they really mattered, they'd be making something, and it sounds like they arent making anything, and are just "fans.""
They're paying the salaries. It's a good thing.
Salaries for WHAT? Care to elaborate?
So far, he hasnt said a god damned thing, just name dropping and fluff and garbage
What "name dropping?" Where are the names? What does he want us to do, anyway, elect him king?
You guys have taken the fake Greg B. bait. Someone is having fun imitating Greg B. from Animation Nation, and yanking everyone's chain here on the TAG Blog.
It's a pretty good copy, but it's not the real deal. You're all arguing with a prankster.
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